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Offline Buiaka

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My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« on: September 02, 2013, 03:24:36 PM »
Hi all,

i hope this is the right place for posting some pictures of my engine bay.
Originally a 351W-2V (H-code) rebuilt to a 351W-4V with original 4V intake manifold and flattop pistons.
I got the original Autolite 4300 carburetor from a friend. Im really proud.
Now i changed the spark plug wires to the Autolite wires.
I know, i have to change the routing of the heater hose, now. It wasnt possible to install the hose a different way with my Edelbrock carburetor and this e-choke crap ;P
I changed this crappy repro Autolite starter solenoid to a more reliable from Motorcraft (D0....) and the voltage regulator to an electronic one from Motorcraft. I just changed the housing. I had really bad problems with these mechanical repro regulators.

greets

Christopher from Good old Germany

« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 03:31:49 PM by Buiaka »

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 02:53:18 PM »
Looks great!! You did a nice job...
1970 Metuchen Mach1 Medium Red 351C 4v Auto PB Shaker Black Interior

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 09:08:11 AM »
*update*

now with new Autolite spark plug wires, new distributor vacuum hoses, new throttle return spring.
I solved the problem with the heater hoses. You can only buy one 2x90° hose for the water valve and no molded heater hose for going from the firewall to the water pump. So i decided to take another 2x90° hose and connect it with a brass tube to the heater hose. It looks the best way like original.

Greets

Christopher

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 09:40:45 PM »
Christopher what plant was your car built at and when ?
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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 03:12:13 AM »
Hi,

it was built in Metuchen, July 69.

greets

Christopher

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 10:35:20 PM »
Thanks Christopher. Did you post the pictures for input /improvement or just proud of your work and efforts?  No problem with either just didn't want to thread if it would not be expected or anticipated. Noticed a number of non-factory details and wouldn't want others to visit the site and assume that they should reproduce all the details shown in your pictures ;)
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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 04:28:03 AM »
Hi Jeff,

yes, i wanted to post it just for showing. But its ok for me when you write about whats not factory correct.
Im ready to learn more.
I know that there are some details that are not correct for example the bypass hose shows C2... I think it should be the Autolite hose. It was not possible to put a factory orignal band clamp around it without damaging the hose.
The sight glass from the Ac hose is repro, because i wanted to change my original 40 year old hose to get the AC to work properly. NOS or factory correct is hard to find for this one.
But this engine bay is the best i could do here in Germany. I think its the most concourse correct Mach 1 in Europe.

Thank you

regards

Christopher
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 04:30:31 AM by Buiaka »

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 12:00:39 AM »
I know that there are some details that are not correct for example the bypass hose shows C2... I think it should be the Autolite hose. It was not possible to put a factory original band clamp around it without damaging the hose.

Originally the hose and clamps would have been painted engine blue as they were in place at that time so we would not expect no C2, Autolite or any other markings to be seen.

The hose clamp you got (likely in a kit) was likely an early style since those are smaller - in 69 the diameter was increased along with the hose


But this engine bay is the best i could do here in Germany. I think its the most concourse correct Mach 1 in Europe.

That was the reason for the other question as I think with very little work you can make it even better ;)

I will ignore some details since your not likely going to go out and replate a dozen bolts and other hardware given your situation. At this point its easy to understand your not going to go back and try to weld up the holes added by a PO to lube the upper Arms through the shock tower walls.

What you might consider at some point is

- The PS color is not very close and the front pump and the housing were together when the unit was painted (rear tag and nut also) so eacch would be painted.

- You purchased one of the typical decal kits which included a number of decals that never came on your car. The Caution Fan, FRONT and the one on the snorkel don't belong on your car. The one on the drivers side inner fender (in front of the shock tower) should be on the drivers side valve cover behind the breather so it can be read from the front of the engine

- You purchased a kit for the short fuel line (guessing it came with the right clamps) but didn't get the same for the fuel pump to fuel line next to the PS pump

- PCV to hose clamp should be a wire clamp

- Dip stick should be bare metal (shaped differently from the one you have) The dip stick tube would have been painted robin egg blue and the transmission would not be painted.

- Since you have a late car the cowl section above the firewall would have been painted black as you have it but the black at the outer edges would have extended under the cowl cover and fenders - not body color there.

- The buck tag was attached to the car when the black engine compartment was applied so it and the mounting screw would be black

- You've added Pertronixs (s?) but none of the wires passed through a wire retaining clip on the passenger valve cover. Multiple ones were used under the top valve cover bolts on the drivers side

- Master cylinder cap and bale were painted black with the rest of the brake cylinder and PB booster.

- There is a little white clip that was tapped to the wiper motor wires and attaches to the bracket formed into the cowl to firewall pinch weld on the drivers side. Think it will be a challenge to find one over there ;)  Just wanted to mention if

Not sure what the wire/hose is that is coming out of the hole above the AC on the firewall. Its in one picture but not others. That hole wasn't used (filled with black sealer) on AC cars only non- AC ones.

That is about it for the easy (mostly) quick improvements that can be considered. A few hours a few spray cans of paint and you've knocked out most of them

Good luck with the car and thanks for participating in the forum.   
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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 04:03:59 PM »
Dear Jeff,

i did a lot of research. Is this the correct wire clip for the wiper motor harness?
The PCV hose clamp is it more like brass color or silver like npd sells them?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140544361832&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 06:24:17 PM »
Dear Jeff,

i did a lot of research. Is this the correct wire clip for the wiper motor harness?


Shape appears to be correct  See posts to follow shape and design are not correct for this application :( - the picture makes it REALLY white. Originals were not bright white but changed to the brownish color over time exposed to the elements in the engine compartment


The PCV hose clamp is it more like brass color or silver like npd sells them?

Looking at original cars the clamp at the PCV was not used on any 69's I have pictures of Unfortunately, since you had a worm clamp installed) it will have likely have left  a pattern in the rubber that would not be hidden by using no clamp or even the wire style

With that said I would expect that allot of the judges will be expecting a wire style clamp in zinc finish unless you want to go through the effort of collecting and presenting it to share with them

While were at this area - wanted to mention to all - notice that there are no round plastic labels on the PCV ;)

Couple of examples

Dearborn - July production




San Jose - May production




Even a 69 Dearborn CJ (March production) example for others

« Last Edit: December 21, 2013, 01:35:33 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2013, 06:42:38 AM »
Hi Jeff,

thank you a lot for your advice. Ill install the wire clamp instead of the worm clamp. Nobody will see the pattern the worm clamp left in the rubber, i think.
The cable above the Ac lines in the firewall you mentioned before is my stereo cable from the battery to my amplifier ;D
I know not concours correct, but i need a good sound of music in my car. The old speakers are really crap.

greets

Christopher

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2013, 07:40:33 AM »
Dear Jeff,

i did a lot of research. Is this the correct wire clip for the wiper motor harness?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140544361832&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

Hi Christopher,
nice to meet you in this forum. :D
I think that are the right ones:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161028327127?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Greetings Harry
« Last Edit: December 21, 2013, 02:29:06 PM by Harry1003 »

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2013, 09:17:34 AM »
Hey Harry,

thank you a lot for the link. I bought them directly.

greets

Christopher

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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2013, 01:29:26 PM »
Sorry wasin too much of a hurry and completely forgot to mention a few details that makes the shape incorrect. First one is  that the attachment design on the first ebay ad was not like original Harry's post shows the correct attachment shape on the used on in that ad. Also on the originals there is a small hole in each arm and a cut that attaches the hole to the end of the piece so that one wire can be firmly connected (by running it from hole to hole) to the plastic piece

IF you have access to a wrecking yard you can normally get a good handful of nice bright original ones from behind door panels and in the trunk (lower panel under the trunk opening) on the mid to late 70's cars ;)
« Last Edit: December 21, 2013, 01:34:44 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: My engine bay 351W-4V 1969 Mach 1 with PS + AC + FMX
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2013, 10:05:18 PM »
Hi Christopher,
nice to meet you in this forum. :D
I think that are the right ones:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161028327127?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Greetings Harry

Dang!  I literally have dozens of these things laying about---I had no idea they were worth that much.
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