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Offline kiehlr

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Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« on: November 20, 2011, 07:29:10 PM »
I purchased a Danacorn left hand door shell from a parts supplier. Three problems were obvious from the start:  there were mirror holes, for a standard mirror, in the wrong place.  They were too far forward so the vent window would contact the mirror. Also I am using a remote mirror so it has a different hole pattern.  I was told just to fill the holes and drill new ones.  The interior simulated vinyl grain did not look as original, and the nut plates for the hinges were 3/8" not 5/16".  After fitting the door to the body I found the following problems,pictures attached:  Top of door to quarter panel had a V gap. Top of door to fender S shape did not match fender.  Door to quarter at character lines did not match.  Door to fender did not have a consistant gap from top to bottom.  The gap, bottom of door to rocker was 1/2".  I know that Mustangs had wide gaps here but this was excessive.  I returned the door shell to the supplier and did the body work on the original door which was less effort than reworking the new part.

Has anyone else run into problems like this with new door shells?
« Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 08:40:43 PM by kiehlr »
I worked at the Metuchen Assembly Plant from 1965 to 1970.The picture of me in my Mustang was taken May 1965 in front of the Metuchen Plant.  It was a Dearnborn car since Metuchen did not produce convertibles in 1965. My daily driver looks the same but is not. Current project 66 GT convertible.

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 11:36:24 PM »
This is consistent with the reproduction doors I have seen.  It would take many hours by a professional body technician to get them fitting right.  Then there is the problem with the grain.  I have also noticed the inner structure flex when the window regular is installed and cranked.  It is much more practical to repair an original door, although they are getting hard to find in restorable condition.
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Offline Pete Bush

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 06:32:56 AM »
I'm in the beginning stages of the restoration of my '66 Sprint. A previous owner had cut speaker holes in the inside bottoms of my otherwise good doors. I thought I would replace them with the Dynacorn doors, but after reading your report, Bob, I guess I'll be looking for a used pair of doors.
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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 11:52:49 AM »
Welcome to the world of reproduction (counterfeit) parts. You did yourself a favor by repairing your original door vs. installing junk. Unfortunately sometimes  you have no other choice but to buy this stuff but I try to avoid it at all cost. I would rather install a genuine used part that may not be perfect than some new poor fitting TIAWAN made part. I am into the 69-70 models and I have been buying up used sheetmetal and any other original parts for years because I know it's better than money in the bank. Even if a body tech. has to spend 10 hours repairing an original door that cost is usually no more than what a repop door would be and  you end up with the correct part that is the same gauge metal & made in the U.S.A.
  I was looking for a good used 69-70 fastback package shelf and could not find one that was not rotted due to water damage or had speaker holes cut into it, so I reluctantly purchased a repop panel from N.P.D for $35.00. What I got was a piece of cardboard that was rolled up on one end. There is no texture and the part is not painted. I got lucky the other day and found a nice original panel and compared it to the repop. First off the original panel is made of a fiber board or Masonite material, the kick up in the back is at a 45 degree angle to match up with the contour of the body and finally the original part has the textured camera case grain painted the correct dark charcoal not black.  I will be posting pics. of the differences later on after I restore my original panel.
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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 02:38:28 PM »
Don't intend to get off topic, but in general, I think having so many reproduction parts has changed how Mustang restorations are approached.  Instead of taking the time to properly restore original parts (like a lot of other marquee owners have to do), parts are just ordered out of a catalog.  I find that it is often cheaper to restore an original part versus buying an NOS replacement.  The fit and functionality of a good original restored part usually blows away everything else.
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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 08:38:53 PM »
Don't intend to get off topic, but in general, I think having so many reproduction parts has changed how Mustang restorations are approached.  Instead of taking the time to properly restore original parts (like a lot of other marquee owners have to do), parts are just ordered out of a catalog.  I find that it is often cheaper to restore an original part versus buying an NOS replacement.  The fit and functionality of a good original restored part usually blows away everything else.

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 08:53:13 PM »
I'd love to be able to restore my original door, but I'm afraid that there's no way to patch the speaker hole in the textured portion of the door without losing the texture.
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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 09:13:31 PM »
Pete,
I think my dad has a nice pair of 65 door put away. I'll check and PM you if he wants to sell them. Marty

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 09:52:41 PM »
Back in the mid-2000's, when I was restoring Midlife, I was searching for both a driver and passenger side doors in very good condition: good interior grain, no rust at the bottom, and no major dings on the exterior sheet metal.  I went to AZ, bought what I thought was a good door off of a recent wreck, and it turned out to be full of putty.  Bought two doors at major shows in Pensacola, FL, and both were junk.  During this time, folks from SoCal were saying they were a dime-a-dozen at local swap meets for $100 or less (yeah, right).  Bought two more doors  via e-mail leads, and both turned out to be unrestorable.  Finally, I got a lead from an Internet denizen in Oregon, close to my in-laws.  Flew out, and examined the door.  It had been stored in an attic since 1968, and was only $80.  I bought it quicker than you can say "sold".  Just down the road was a small Mustang parts outlet (both used and new), and found a stripped door for $110.  Bought it, and took both to my in-laws for boxing up and shipment back home in used bicycle boxes.

The days of finding good used doors quickly and/or cheaply is long gone, my friends.  I spent 3.5 years and bought 7 doors before I found 2 good ones.  If you run across some, even if you're not needing them, buy them up, as they are only going to appreciate in value.  I'd easily pay $250 for a good quality door.

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 11:21:49 PM »
I'd love to be able to restore my original door, but I'm afraid that there's no way to patch the speaker hole in the textured portion of the door without losing the texture.
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PETE, I would have someone butt weld in a patch panel on your door if that is the only major issue. The texture can't be perfectly duplicated but it can be faked out a little to where it's acceptable. Again I would rather have a texture difference on the lower part of the inside of a door than have a poor fitting, closing door with the wrong texture anyway.  CHRIS
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69 MUSTANG COUPE, DEARBORN BUILT 06/10/69 OWNED SINCE 1978
70 BOSS 302 MUSTANG, DEARBORN BUILT 10/24/69 OWNED SINCE 1987
69 R CODE MACH1 AUTO, DEARBORN BUILT 10/10/68 OWNED SINCE 2006
69 R CODE MACH1 4 SPEED (factory black) SAN JOSE BUILT 12/30/68 OWNED SINCE 2007

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Re: Danacorn 65/66 reproduction door
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 07:06:27 AM »
Please let me know if your dad wants to sell the doors.

If I can't find replacements, I may have to attempt a patch - but it'll never match the texture.
'66 6-cylinder Sprint Convertible
Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st