Topic: 1964 1/2 early 1965 clutch and disc brake pedals

[SFM65]

I'm looking for two original pedals: an early clutch pedal and a disc brake pedal for manual transmission (no groove).
Thank you.

[rustbucket]

is there a difference of an early 65 pedal ? if so what?

[CharlesTurner]

is there a difference of an early 65 pedal ? if so what?

The early pedal pads don't have an indentation for stainless trim.  They were phased out in production around March/April of '65.  Some cars have a combination of indented gas pedal and no indent brake/clutch pads.

[rustbucket]

so if the difference is the rubber pedal pad only ,
is the actual metal pedal is the same 64.5-66 ?

[ChrisV289]

NPD sells reproductions of the early style brake and clutch pedal with no indentation if you can?t find original. Still no repro of the early style gas pedal

[CharlesTurner]

so if the difference is the rubber pedal pad only ,
is the actual metal pedal is the same 64.5-66 ?

The clutch pedals between 64.5-65 and 66 are different.  Ford switched to a pin type shaft for '66, the earlier had a spring clip, like use on the parking brake cables under the car.  Brake pedals should be the same.  The 64.5 pushrod for the brake pedal is different since the brake light switch is on the master cylinder.  Brake pedals are different for disc brake cars, the pin at the top where the pushrod attaches is a little further down.

[rustbucket]

Well, I learned a few things today.
thanks for the info

[SFM65]

NPD sells reproductions of the early style brake and clutch pedal with no indentation if you can?t find original. Still no repro of the early style gas pedal

It's fairly easy to find a gas pedal, since every car has one regardless of the transmission.
For the clutch pad, it's a little more difficult, since it requires a manual transmission.
But for the disc brake pad(in my case), in addition to a manual transmission, the car must have been ordered with disc brakes.

The current reproduction of the early clutch pad is quite close to the assembly line production pad; however, the disc brake pad is completely different. The disc brake ring is not exactly the same, and most importantly, the location of this chrome "disc brake" ring is incorrect (one rib off to the right).
Attached are the 3 original early style pads.

[Bob Gaines]

It's fairly easy to find a gas pedal, since every car has one regardless of the transmission.
For the clutch pad, it's a little more difficult, since it requires a manual transmission.
But for the disc brake pad(in my case), in addition to a manual transmission, the car must have been ordered with disc brakes.

The current reproduction of the early clutch pad is quite close to the assembly line production pad; however, the disc brake pad is completely different. The disc brake ring is not exactly the same, and most importantly, the location of this chrome "disc brake" ring is incorrect (one rib off to the right).
Attached are the 3 original early style pads.

Your wording was clear to me however others reading may miss the nuance difference in that it was only "all"
"in"1965 Mustang/Shelby that had the unique gas pedal design. Other years were different. I appreciate your post and the picture.

[J_Speegle]

The current reproduction of the early clutch pad is quite close to the assembly line production pad; however, the disc brake pad is completely different. The disc brake ring is not exactly the same, and most importantly, the location of this chrome "disc brake" ring is incorrect (one rib off to the right).
Attached are the 3 original early style pads.

As has been the practice in the past the reproduction might have made using a service replacement /later NOS as a pattern. Happens a lot

[CharlesTurner]

Your wording was clear to me however others reading may miss the nuance difference in that it was only "all" 1965 Mustang/Shelby that had the unique gas pedal design. Other years were different. I appreciate your post and the picture.

I think I'm understanding this response and I'm sure you know that the transition from the no-indent pedal pads to indented was a transition around March/April of '65.  On at least San Jose cars, I'm seeing indented accelerator pedals during March of '65 installed with no indent clutch/brake pedal pads and then later with all indented.  I'm not sure how long that mixed combination lasted.

[Bob Gaines]

I think I'm understanding this response and I'm sure you know that the transition from the no-indent pedal pads to indented was a transition around March/April of '65.  On at least San Jose cars, I'm seeing indented accelerator pedals during March of '65 installed with no indent clutch/brake pedal pads and then later with all indented.  I'm not sure how long that mixed combination lasted.

Your right I could have been more clear . I amended my post.

[SFM65]

On at least San Jose cars, I'm seeing indented accelerator pedals during March of '65 installed with no indent clutch/brake pedal pads and then later with all indented.  I'm not sure how long that mixed combination lasted.

Yes, I've seen that too. Here's an example on a car with a scheduled build date of March 26, 1965 (26Q):
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-ford-mustang-493/

I'd say the pedal pads became all indented in the second half of April '65 since the Interior Decor Group option arrived in mid-April.