Topic: Oct 65 NJ Interior floor pan paint and seam sealer

[evantugby]

Gents,
I am trying to get a better understanding of a couple things:

1) interior floor pan paint:  how liberally or conservatively was this applied over the primer? 
2) areas where seam sealer was brushed or sprayed in the interior?  Note: the library has an article on seam sealer but I don’t have a good understanding of where it goes in the interior. 

3) was interior seam sealer applied before or after paint? 

Thanks! 

[dsielke]

This is a shot of my original floors. dec. 1, 65. San Jose

Seam sealer was positively applied before paint

[evantugby]

This is a shot of my original floors. dec. 1, 65. San Jose

Seam sealer was positively applied before paint

This helps a lot.  If anyone has other photos contradictory to just over spray for the interior floor pan please let me know. 

[J_Speegle]

1) interior floor pan paint:  how liberally or conservatively was this applied over the primer? 

Just depends on the worker at the time, how much effort they put into painting the adjoining panels, their height and even (based on what you will see int he finished product) the contrast between the red oxide, light gray primer over spray in some areas and the exterior color

2) areas where seam sealer was brushed or sprayed in the interior?  Note: the library has an article on seam sealer but I don’t have a good understanding of where it goes in the interior. 

There were a bunch and they differed typically depending on body type. It was applied by spraying or sprayed then brushed

Some of the major ones

- Firewall panel to a pillar inner panels. Often there is a glob of sealant (maybe the worker wiping off his brush) in the middle of the forward tilted passenger side floor over the panel date area
- Main floor to firewall
- Seat riser to main floor inner seam/edge
- Main floor to rear floor
- Main floor to rear spring torque panel
- Rear inner wheel well inner housing to rear and main floor
- Rear seat riser forward floor support for quarter trim panel on a fastback to main floor
- Trap door frame panels at the floor connection

3) was interior seam sealer applied before or after paint? 

The vast majority - after

[evantugby]

Thanks Jeff.  This helps a lot! 

[racincast]

Just one question to clarify:
- Interior floor seam sealer was applied before red oxide primer?
- Before Exterior Paint but after light gray primer (paint preparation)?
Thanks in advance

[J_Speegle]

Just one question to clarify:
- Interior floor seam sealer was applied before red oxide primer?

As best as I can tell from what I've collected and seen from that particular plants. In 65 at San Jose there was a period where it was reversed but it appears that they learned from that and did sealer then red oxide in this area after that

- Before Exterior Paint but after light gray primer (paint preparation)?

Yes before exterior light gray primer surfacer, interior color and then exterior

Sound deadener in the interior also before

[racincast]

Thanks Jeff,
do you think on Metuchen was the same...I have idea to see photos with interior seam sealer with only overspray and not red oxid primer but always difficult to say with lots of dirty feeding the doubt.

[J_Speegle]

Thanks Jeff,
do you think on Metuchen was the same...I have idea to see photos with interior seam sealer with only overspray and not red oxide primer but always difficult to say with lots of dirty feeding the doubt.

Yes believe that was what I was trying to communicate. For most of the seam sealers were discussing along the floor area, this is typically covered with a fair amount of body color so anything under it is not typically very visible. The paint can get knocked off of the seam sealer through contact and since the sealer is more flexible a layer of sealer with the paint layers would be removed also. Only was to inspect would be to remove the sealer from the metal and check for a layer on the bottom of the sealer and I've not seen that for this year

Below we have examples where the floor is pretty thoroughly covered with body color




Here is an example where the owner removed the seam sealer exposing the metal surface and the original spot welds. Before cleaning and noticeable on the surrounding surfaces is the red oxide primer sealer covered by more of a misting of exterior body color than the examples above 



Hope this helps

[racincast]

I think both options are fine...surely with overspay on top. Thanks for the help