Author Topic: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning  (Read 2632 times)

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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 06:12:27 PM »
At the 3 clips, apron, firewall and footboard??? Has anyone seen these on unrestored cars? Do judges look for this?? It's like pulling on a loose thread, you don't know what's going to unravel. Brian

NPD sells the clip at the firewall.  The one of the toe-board is the same as the one used on 65-66 fuel/brake lines where they are secured under the driver side floor pan.  The clip over by the hood hinge is a shortened version of the driver side floor pan one, but has an extra curve at the end, only has the larger end.  The toe board and inner fender clip are made of spring steel.

I still think you're going to disturb any sealant added around the speedo cable if you apply before the cluster goes in.  Like I said, it's not that big of a deal to touch up if needed.  The original cables I've had, the cable moves in/out of the grommet without much trouble.

Edit: corrected inner fender clip description.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2018, 07:18:32 PM »
Forgot to mention, if you ever need to look up speedometer related stuff on that MPC download it's located in the bumper section. .................

From another thread that focused on 67 speedo cables - a scan of a more correct (well closer to when the cars were built) section from the MPC. Remember the MPC only shows what Ford carried on the year the book was published and what would work. In 68 there were 9 difference cables for different applications

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13910.msg86593#msg86593

For others reading this thread be aware that routing, clips used and cables vary depending on application. Engine size and transmission type ;)
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2018, 08:33:47 PM »
Will have to see if I have the air vent P-clip. Bill, don't forget the clip on the drivers side apron between the brake distribution block and the firewall. I don't think the repop cable is going to have that steel surround for the passenger side footboard clip to locate on. My grey cable does so I can take a measurement of where to locate the cable under that clip. Will advise when the new cable shows up. Any evidence of the tape seen on survivors or unrestored cars? I've been reading these and SAAC forums for a few years now and can't recall anyones posted engine compartment pictures being called out for missing speedo tape. Brian

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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2018, 10:32:32 PM »
Attached photo with remains of tape on the cable - also with clip at lower throttle bracket.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2018, 10:37:54 PM »
................ The clip over by the hood hinge is a shortened version of the driver side floor pan one, only has the larger end.  The toe board and inner fender clip are made of spring steel.

To illustrate



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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2018, 10:42:21 PM »
............. Any evidence of the tape seen on survivors or unrestored cars? I've been reading these and SAAC forums for a few years now and can't recall anyones posted engine compartment pictures being called out for missing speedo tape. Brian

Yes - location, color and so on dependent (it appears) on application and location

Couple of automatic examples at drivers side of firewall






Automatic speedo cable at drivers side front frame rail.




Sure I have more but just went through my non-Shelby San Jose pictures and not all the rest

Often it goes unnoticed as there is normally so much more important details that need focusing on when reviewing and commenting on someones engine compartment plus often hidden from view - especially on a power brake car.   ;)
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2018, 01:21:37 PM »
Looks more like a paper tape, would it have been black originally?
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2018, 03:20:57 PM »
For those reading that may not be aware, the tags are paper and single colored from what I have seen . There were two taped tags . The fire wall grommet or at least the area the speedo cable passed through the firewall is supposed to be between the two tapped tags.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2018, 04:30:41 PM »
Looks more like a paper tape, would it have been black originally?

Richard - are you asking if the labels were black or the exterior layer of the cable?

Cables were originally black on the outside

I've seen the labels/tags in different colors.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2018, 05:05:32 PM »
The labels usually will have an engineering number on them too.. at least some of them along the cable sheathing.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2018, 05:21:27 PM »
Richard - are you asking if the labels were black or the exterior layer of the cable?

Cables were originally black on the outside

I've seen the labels/tags in different colors.

Yes, color(s) of the tape, so it is of a paper-like, colored different colors.
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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2018, 08:13:15 PM »
As I noted earlier, mine is either original or Ford service.
Although the picture doesn't do the color justice I would call it dark silver. The label is plastic and hardier than cellophane tape.

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Re: 67 4-speed speedo cable grommet positioning
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2021, 05:04:35 PM »
To illustrate



Here it is out in the open. spring steel color or black dichromate and cad colored spreader clip:

I should add that I have this clip on my March automatic parts car as well as on the Shelby 4 speed car.
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