Topic: Glove box light fixture - 67 & 68

[196667Bob]

Richard : I did not mean to imply that Marty's premise wasn't a possibility ; I too, in my 55 plus years of "junking" (and still going by the way), have done that exact thing many times myself. I was just saying, that knowing the high degree of confidence that John has that his car has not been "compromised" (John can expound on that if he wishes), that with" his car", it was unlikely (note that I said "unlikely", not impossible) that this scenario occurred.

Bob

[67gta289]

Of course I can't say much with a 100% confidence level that these components are original.  But I can say that it is reasonable to make that deduction, based on:

1. Talking to the original owner, female, that did absolutely nothing on the car herself.
2. Having records of work done by auto repair shops
3. Items that would typically be upgraded first (radio, speaker(s), exhaust) were not
4. Original date coded carb, distributor, rear shocks (but not front), carpet.  Original ball joints, radiator, drive-shaft u-joints, etc.  Original trunk mat.
5. No evidence that the interior had ever been out before I did it.  Zero wires cut.

Known items touched:

1. Rear axle replaced (but rear springs original)
2. Front shocks
3. Water pump and alternator
4. Thermactor system air pump and hoses removed

I'm certainly not stressed over the situation.  I am secure in the decision to put it back the way I found it in 1979.  But I am interested in the forensic speculation of how things like this may have occurred.  I always learn something with the back and forth dialog.

[WT8095]

One thought - for factory installations, was the hole for the switch drilled before the dash was painted, or after? If the factory drilled before paint, you might be able to tell by examining the edges of the hole. If the factory drilled after paint, then this won't add any evidence either way.

[gtamustang]

The hole occurred after the dash was painted and the hole was not drilled. Rather it was punched as were all holes done at the factory. If you see spiraling in the hole then it was not done at the factory! (Maybe dealer, maybe PO or PO representative).

It always is possible that the assembly line worker erroneously punched the hole and installed the box courtesy light on the your Mustang. Check out the hole and see how it matches to my description above.

Regards,
Pete Morgan

[ruppstang]

Marty : You are correct that these two options would be pretty easy to add (I added both of these to my 67 in the early 80's). However, you wouldn't get the Factory C7ZB Glove Compartment Light from the Dealer Parts Department, and you would have to have the Glove Compartment Lock rekeyed to match the Trunk Lock. Possible, but highly unlikely knowing the History of John's car (see John's previous replies to this Post Topic).

My resources for 1967 Options are a 1967 Mustang Sales Brochure (dated 1-67), a 1967 Salesman's Price Guide (dated 3-67), and the 1967 Ford Options Showroom GBC bound "flip chart" (not dated, but marked "Vol 67 C11LB", so probably a 67 publication. You noted you had an "early" options catalog; what is it, and what is the date on it ? As you can see, mine are all after John's build date of 12/20/66, so my resources are not necessarily valid when his car was built.

Thanks for your input.

Bob

Bob I believe that I may have the same option flip guide you have mine is vol. 67C11L8 . Generally These were printed before or near the start of the model year production. Some questions on these cars we may never know the answers to. I would do as John has said and put it back as he found it.
Marty   

[67gta289]

The hole occurred after the dash was painted and the hole was not drilled. Rather it was punched as were all holes done at the factory. If you see spiraling in the hole then it was not done at the factory! (Maybe dealer, maybe PO or PO representative).

It always is possible that the assembly line worker erroneously punched the hole and installed the box courtesy light on the your Mustang. Check out the hole and see how it matches to my description above.

Regards,
Pete Morgan

Pete, thanks for the tip and the insight.  I've got a donor dash from a car with the courtesy group option, pictured in red.  The hole is punched, but it looks like the red paint covers the edge and was painted after the punch (assay line or later I can't say, but the car had that unrestored original feeling if you know what I mean)

In blue is my car, so repainted.  The hole also looks punched.  Both cars feel the same   

[1967 eight barrel]

Attached are a couple of pictures of an NOS one. Note that the Part # is C3AZ-14413-A. The hole on my '67 is 1/2" diameter.

Bob

Bob gets the prize. I was going to post the NOS unit I have. The hole in the lower left side is .500".  There is a VERY good reproduction out there offered from NPD. It even has the part number on the wire, as the Ford unit does. 

[67gta289]

Dredging back up to include a picture. The one on the bottom is from my car, and has a C7ZB part number on the wire and green molded connector.  The one on the top is the "C3AZ-14413-A" version; note the "fat pin" type plunger which is very visible when the glove box door is open.