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Offline CharlesTurner

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Generator detailing
« on: July 10, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »
Anyone have any good reference pics of original generators for 64.5 cars?  I've always thought they were assembled as a unit and then painted.  Curious is this was actually true.  I'm thinking the fan would have been painted separately and installed and already painted generators, which would mean the washer/nut should be natural or plated. 

Also interested in knowing if the generator components were actually painted with everything assembled.  There's only the 2 end plates and the center housing.  Would seem they could have been pre-painted.
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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 09:06:08 PM »
Not sure if this helps. Its a grab from a Ford film enlarged.

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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 10:21:57 AM »
Yeah, I have that pic.  Was hoping for something more clear.
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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 03:01:22 PM »
Figured you did but wanted to start somewhere or at least set a starting point. Hope you get some better examples
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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 08:03:58 PM »
Sorry for the late reply on this I just saw it.

When I first looked at this pic I thought the whole generator was painted black, including the front and rear brackets, just as I have always thought.   Now, I just looked at this again and it seems that maybe they are not - back is very reflective, but maybe it's just that the paint is very reflective.  It DOES look like the side terminals were capped off to keep paint off of the threads and the top of the top locking nut, with the rest of the middle section painted black.

I just tore one down that doesn't look like it was ever repainted, and the whole exterior was black, brackets and all.  Even the condenser screw on the back looked like it was partially screwed in on the  back when it was painted.

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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2019, 11:19:25 PM »
Keep in mind the end plates were not smooth like the main body, that could change the appearance of the paint, especially in a pic like above.

I am still not sure if the whole unit was painted assembled or the individual parts painted the same and then everything put together.  Would be nice to see a period correct piece that has not been altered/rebuilt/restored.
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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2019, 01:56:34 PM »
Here are some pictures of what I believe to be the original generator for a June 64 K code.  I used to think that each of the parts was dipped and then assembled, but you can see that there is no paint on the inside of the end brackets or the body.  The main body has a gunmetal blue finish after removing the black paint with  stripper.  (Sorry, but the paint had already been removed from the outside of the front bracket and the body several years ago.)

You can see the overspray of black paint on the end of the armature windings that blew through the holes.  The generator was apparently not painted end on, but rather from a 45 degree angle to near perpendicular to the main body, the paint overspray is only near the tip of the armature.  I repainted it with the same technique and got pretty much the same overspray pattern.  There was also very little coverage on the surfaces nearest the outside circumference within end holes near the fan, because the spray was inwards.

Also, the fan must have been mounted when painting, because there is no spray on the shaft where the fan was mounted, only on the exposed tip of the shaft, the lock washer and nut.  Also, the condenser lock screw/washer appeared to be screwed in part way during painting - paint all the way to the hole, and only the top of the screw and captive lock washer were painted.


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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2019, 04:58:43 PM »
Thanks, had seen the same patterns, but was not sure if the parts were original/unrestored or not.
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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 07:52:16 PM »
CHARLES.
Did you see the for sale post on saac forum where someone is selling what is claim to be a original unrestored hipo generator.

might fill in some blanks on this topic also

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Re: Generator detailing
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 08:28:04 PM »
CHARLES.   Did you see the for sale post on saac forum where someone is selling what is claim to be a original unrestored hipo generator.
might fill in some blanks on this topic also

Not sure that it will be of much help I grabbed them for the markings. Here is one of those pictures and a close up from the other of a couple of specific areas






Most of the shots I have of them out are from straight on from the site so not much help with the end details
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