Author Topic: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8 ????  (Read 2556 times)

Offline ChrisV289

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1965
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2018, 10:38:56 PM »
I know this isn't on topic but looks like they changed the routing of the heater hoses in that pic...It just lays on top pf the valve cover...
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

Offline J_Speegle

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24628
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2018, 11:07:39 PM »
I know this isn't on topic but looks like they changed the routing of the heater hoses in that pic...It just lays on top pf the valve cover...

Where else should it be? That is how it was typically done at San Jose
Jeff Speegle

Anything worth doing is worth doing concours ;)

Offline ChrisV289

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1965
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2018, 11:15:10 PM »
Where else should it be? That is how it was typically done at San Jose

What I mean was from what I can tell the one that goes to the intake manifold is now underneath the one that goes along the manifold to the water pump.  Isn't that one normally on top so on cars with an automatic choke it is placed in that carb bracket?
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

Offline J_Speegle

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24628
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2018, 11:27:21 PM »
What I mean was from what I can tell the one that goes to the intake manifold is now underneath the one that goes along the manifold to the water pump.  Isn't that one normally on top so on cars with an automatic choke it is placed in that carb bracket?

The example Bob posted (found that car used in many magazine article in the early production period at Shelby before San Jose was doing much of the engine modifications. That particular car can often be identified by a number 17 assembler stamp on the passenger side of the front carburetor float bowl
Jeff Speegle

Anything worth doing is worth doing concours ;)

Offline Bob Gaines

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9362
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 12:47:43 AM »
Yes that’s what I meant. Thanks Bob. So does someone have a picture of what a correct AC pump looks like?
There is no correct AC pump for a 65-70 289/302 V8 because they are after market and not assemblyline for those applications. The correct fuelpump would be a Carter brand , the style of which depended on when the car was produced.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Offline Bob Gaines

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9362
Re: Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 01:35:05 AM »
Yes that’s what I meant. Thanks Bob. So does someone have a picture of what a correct AC pump looks like?
Here is a picture of the early 260/289 clamshell 65 style carter fuelpump on the left and the later 65 style fuelpump with the sheetmetal crimped on lower half on the right. you can see the similarity between the AC fuelpump and the early Carter style when you compare pictures.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Offline NEFaurora

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 970
Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8 ????
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2018, 02:03:32 AM »

Also another difference was that the AC's would leak sometimes...(Especially after years of use) and that the "Crimped" Carter style ones would not!!

:o)

Tony K.

Tony Kovar (NEFaurora@aol.com)
1965 Mustang Convertible 200 cid 3spd manual
1966 Mustang Convertible Sprint 200 C4 Auto
2007 Mustang Convertible V6 Auto with "Pony Package".
1966 Mustang Sprint 200 Registry Owner/Moderator
MCA#70001

Offline Bob Gaines

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9362
Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8 ????
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2018, 03:35:14 AM »
Also another difference was that the AC's would leak sometimes...(Especially after years of use) and that the "Crimped" Carter style ones would not!!

:o)

Tony K.
Yes but the clam shell style is easy to rebuild in your garage with a 35.00 AMK kit where as the crimp style is not consumer practical to rebuild and basically only one person left in the country that you can send a crimp style to and have them rebuilt/restored.  The cost for that service is aprox 230.00.  FYI I thank the stars that Fred still rebuilds the crimp style. More power to him.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Offline michaelvonlanthen

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 123
Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8 ????
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2018, 05:56:59 PM »
just checked my old fuel pump from my Mustang D-Code (July 6 Dearborn). We had to replace it a few weeks ago since it was not working properly.
Could you please tell me if it is the correct one and if it is worth to rebuild it (for a sunny weekend driver car). I don't see any markings like Carter etc. And it looks slightly different than the one on the photo above from Bob.

Thanks, Michael
Michael Vonlanthen
Switzerland

5F08D189*** - 76A   F   42   06G    75   1   6
Guardsman Blue Convertible with white interior, AT, PB, AC, console, Rally-Pac

Offline Bob Gaines

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9362
Re: Correct fuel pump- '65 V8 ????
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2018, 07:21:38 PM »
just checked my old fuel pump from my Mustang D-Code (July 6 Dearborn). We had to replace it a few weeks ago since it was not working properly.
Could you please tell me if it is the correct one and if it is worth to rebuild it (for a sunny weekend driver car). I don't see any markings like Carter etc. And it looks slightly different than the one on the photo above from Bob.

Thanks, Michael
First off assuming July 6th of 1964 the screw together style is what is used. Unfortunately the one in the picture is a generic replacement. I would not spend any more money on it . The Carter pumps use the same rebuild kits as the later Carter big block version that is readily available from all of the larger Mustang vendors. The hole spacing made into the rubber diaphragm may be different on the aftermarket versions so the available rebuild kits may not work on those. There are still enough of the original cores out there that you will not have too much trouble locating one.  I typically keep one on the shelf for example to sell to the various 289 Cobra guys call me from time to time.   
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby