Topic: Hole and clip identification/verification for a '65 4 speed San Jose

[65Ford]

Attached are pictures of the hole in my '65 (5R09A142 in my sig) Mustang's trans tunnel and the best pictures I can get of a clip mounted high on the passenger toe board.  Are these meant for a 4 spd '65 Mustang (SJ scheduled 10/2/64)?

The last picture shows a plug just beneath where the steering column enters the firewall.  Should the hole (and the plug) be there for a 4 spd '65 Mustang?

Thanks!

DT

[rockhouse66]

The hole near the tunnel is the 4-speed speedometer cable hole.  The hole with the plug is the automatic transmission hole and should be there and should be plugged on a 4-speed.  Don't know what to say about that clip.

[CharlesTurner]

The clip is correct for a 4sp car.

[rockhouse66]

Charles - is that brake line clip, speedo cable clip or ??  I'm having trouble with the scale of the part and I don't know that I have noticed this butterfly style clip.

[Brian Conway]

Couple pictures of the one on my car.  Similar to the fuel/brake line clip but this one holds only the speedo cable.  Passenger side behind the ' H ' pipe and near  the exhaust manifold.  Brian

[jwc66k]

The plug is p/n 377936-S, used without the 3 speed manual transmission (aka used with AT and 4 speed), is the same one used on each end of the 64-66 cowl for an access hole. The top is visible along side the fender. I have no referenced drawing.
The clip for the 4 speed speedometer cable is 373842-S100, documented in the  "Ford Standard and Utility Parts Catalog, Jan 65 pg 33 (and July 66 pg 33). It is sold by AMK but is not completely correct. The original "butterfly clip" is dipped in a yellowish adhesive sealer, the current one has a foam sealer.
Jim

[CharlesTurner]

Charles - is that brake line clip, speedo cable clip or ??  I'm having trouble with the scale of the part and I don't know that I have noticed this butterfly style clip.

It's the same clip.

[65Ford]

All,

Thank you for confirming the hole and clip.  Now I have to remove the '71 Maverick 200 I6 three speed and install a proper '65 toploader and speedometer cable.  The original owner routed the cable through the clutch rod hole!

Brian, thank you for posting a clearer picture of the bracket.

Which reminds me, I need to look at the clutch rod hole and determine if it uses the later rubber seal or the earlier bracket and felt(?) bushing.

[CharlesTurner]

Your Oct '64 San Jose car definitely would have had the u bracket with felt seal for the clutch pedal rod.

[65Ford]

Thank you Charles.  I'll have to verify if the two screw holes are there.  I just remember seeing the clutch rod and speedometer cable going through the same hole. I hope I can find that bracket and felt bushing I saved from another Mustang 20 years ago...

2/5/17 update:  My Mustang does have the bracket and what's left of the felt bushing for the clutch rod from the pedal.  The metal bracket and bushing are beat up due to some one rerouting the speedo cable through the same bushing as the clutch rod.  sigh.

[rockhouse66]

The plug is p/n 377936-S, used without the 3 speed manual transmission (aka used with AT and 4 speed), is the same one used on each end of the 64-66 cowl for an access hole. The top is visible along side the fender. I have no referenced drawing.
The clip for the 4 speed speedometer cable is 373842-S100, documented in the  "Ford Standard and Utility Parts Catalog, Jan 65 pg 33 (and July 66 pg 33). It is sold by AMK but is not completely correct. The original "butterfly clip" is dipped in a yellowish adhesive sealer, the current one has a foam sealer.
Jim

I am still having a little trouble with this detail.  The Assembly Manual does indicate the use of the 373842 clip on all 3-speed and on 4-speed 6-cyl. cars but specifies 380072 for 4-speed cars.  Somewhere along the line in restoring my 9/65 San Jose 4-speed car I convinced myself this should be a single loop style butterfly clip.  AMK doesn't list this 380072 clip but I think I used either B-10276 or B-10277 as the closest option (p. 147 in the 2014 catalog).  So, is the Assembly Manual incorrect on this detail for V-8 4-speed cars?  What does 380072 look like?