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Offline DKutz

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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2016, 12:20:34 PM »
I just notice CJ calls it Gun Metal Blue and NPD calls it Charcoal Blue?  Again which is right and what does it really look like?

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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2016, 03:28:31 PM »
The correct color is gunmetal blue. It's a fairly dark blue.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2016, 03:50:07 PM »
I'd describe it as medium gray/blue.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2016, 03:53:04 PM »
OK if its dark gun metal mine might be too light.

Next question,....  the ends are black, the back ribs are black, and the rivets are Black or are the rivets natural, or are they touched up with the grille color.  And how do you achieve this?  Paint the black then mask off the black and paint the blue??

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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2016, 04:47:13 PM »
I'd describe it as medium gray/blue.
I believe Ford called the color "charcoal blue" but used that same name for a different shade in 1970.
OK if its dark gun metal mine might be too light.
It's not dark gun metal.
- the ends are black, the back ribs are black,
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- and the rivets are Black or are the rivets natural, or are they touched up with the grille color.
Black (dark phosphate) or a dark natural. They are not painted.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 12:08:09 PM »
Virginia Classic Mustang posted a nice set of pictures on their blog that I used as a reference when repainting my '65 grill.  I've attached them here.  This may make it easier to understand (a picture is worth a thousand words and all of that). 

PS - It was my understanding that the end tabs AND the rivet heads were indeed painted Black.  Charles can you please confirm or correct me.

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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2016, 03:40:25 PM »
PS - It was my understanding that the end tabs AND the rivet heads were indeed painted Black.  Charles can you please confirm or correct me.

The rivets could be natural or black.  They were not black paint, but plated, like black zinc or similar.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 05:00:34 PM »
Virginia Classic Mustang posted a nice set of pictures on their blog that I used as a reference when repainting my '65 grill.  I've attached them here.  This may make it easier to understand (a picture is worth a thousand words and all of that). 

PS - It was my understanding that the end tabs AND the rivet heads were indeed painted Black.  Charles can you please confirm or correct me.

Regards,


Ron
Also for those reading notice the style of rivet head in the picture . Many later service grills and some repros used a pop rivet style which is not assemblyline style.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2016, 05:17:15 PM »
When I did my grill I was able to find some correct rivets.  See the comparison to one of the originals.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2016, 05:47:33 PM »
The same style rivets used on vertical vent frame weather-strip can be used.

The grille paint should be satin finish, very little if any gloss.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2016, 06:22:49 PM »
When I did my grill I was able to find some correct rivets.  See the comparison to one of the originals.

where?
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2016, 07:13:31 PM »
where?


This is the package that I used--all the info is on there.  Good luck with the project.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 12:11:50 AM »
I've used Jay Cee Sales as well. Their address http://www.rivetsinstock.com/ There's a toll free number at the bottom of their page.
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Re: 65 Grille Color
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 03:05:16 PM »
The rivets could be natural or black.  They were not black paint, but plated, like black zinc or similar.

Thanks Charles
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