Topic: Steering column clamp - 67

[rocnhrse]

67 s code gta April  SJ , the 2 piece clamp at the bottom of the steering column  is it under the firewall pad or above  it and therefore  you would see it, also the fuse box  is there a cut out for it in the pad ,I am using  a new pad which  has no cut outs

[67gtasanjose]

67 s code gta April  SJ , the 2 piece clamp at the bottom of the steering column  is it under the firewall pad or above  it and therefore  you would see it, also the fuse box  is there a cut out for it in the pad ,I am using  a new pad which  has no cut outs

Column clamp UNDER the firewall pad.

Only 'holes for the screws', behind the fuse panel. Since the fuse panel was screwed down without pre-drilled holes in both the firewall pad AND the firewall (originally, on the assembly line) and assuming you are using a firewall already with the holes in it for the fuse panel mounting screws, you can find those original holes easiest by piercing the firewall pad from outside, under the hood, using a drill bit, (or the likes) something smaller than those holes. You may wish to have another person pressing a block of wood or something, against the firewall pad under the dash. No matter how you go about it, the jute backing of the firewall pad will try and fight the screws (and/or the drill bit) but having them pre-pierced should help considerably. You can further reduce the fighting of the jute backing if you first pierce the holes into the firewall pad (as decribed), then use a soldering gun and burn the jute a bit (from behind the fuse panel, under the dash), this will help a great deal to keep the jute from fighting the screws into place.

Curiosity asks, what firewall pad did you settle on?
Reproductions I have seen, closer match the Dearborn & NJ types, San Jose firewall pads were unique (with the spotted dimple pattern)

[rocnhrse]

Thanks for the  information, I bought  the Scott  Drake  molded pad ,fits ok and is fairly tough ,I am clear  on the fuse box ,but one more question  I looked at a 67 SJ coupe this morning  and it had a trim colar at the base  of column which matched the standard interior, don't remember  seeing that on my deluxe  interior

[67gtasanjose]

Thanks for the  information, I bought  the Scott  Drake  molded pad ,fits ok and is fairly tough ,I am clear  on the fuse box ,but one more question  I looked at a 67 SJ coupe this morning  and it had a trim colar at the base  of column which matched the standard interior, don't remember  seeing that on my deluxe  interior

Tilt Column or Standard, fixed column?

[rocnhrse]

It's a standard  column, I looked at the assembly  manual and it shows  a split collar for the s code cars and the cars with tilt wheel   so I am assuming  (something that you should never do) that all other cars had a one piece collar with a trim piece to cover the carpet  that matched the interior, interesting  stuff these 67's

[J_Speegle]

It's a standard  column, I looked at the assembly  manual and it shows  a split collar for the s code cars and the cars with tilt wheel   so I am assuming  (something that you should never do) that all other cars had a one piece collar with a trim piece to cover the carpet  that matched the interior, interesting  stuff these 67's

Guess the collar/plate sort of  matches the interior color if the interior was black. Unfortunately the collar is painted (dipped I believe) is rally black while the is dark Charcoal


Here are a few pictures


Standard non-tilt with black collar and rubber donut




One showing the plate/collar





One showing just the plate/collar




Tilt column with black collar

[rocnhrse]

Thanks for the pictures  Jeff, the first picture  shows the donut  on the steering  column, I don't  remember  that being  on my column, was the donut on every car

[67gta289]

They were standard equipment on all Fairlanes, due to prevalent use as police cars...  sorry had to go there.

[67gtasanjose]

Thanks for the pictures  Jeff, the first picture  shows the donut  on the steering  column, I don't  remember  that being  on my column, was the donut on every car

My understanding is that the donut looking seal was used ONLY on the "long shaft steering gear boxes", when used for Mustangs with the "fixed" columns (non-tilt) applications EXCEPT for S-codes. My understanding is that the S-codes typically all used the short shaft gear boxes and therefore DID NOT have the donut, but used the two-piece plate with a rubber seal (inner tube looking rubber with a thin rubber sleeve wrapping the column, same plate & rubber sleeve used on tilt column applications) 

[krelboyne]

It's like Deja vu all over again.

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12766.msg77595#msg77595

[Bob Gaines]

My understanding is that the donut looking seal was used ONLY on the "long shaft steering gear boxes", when used for Mustangs with the "fixed" columns (non-tilt) applications EXCEPT for S-codes. My understanding is that the S-codes typically all used the short shaft gear boxes and therefore DID NOT have the donut, but used the two-piece plate with a rubber seal (inner tube looking rubber with a thin rubber sleeve wrapping the column, same plate & rubber sleeve used on tilt column applications)

FYI later in the production year maybe may 67? all of the SB boxes transitioned to the rag joint box. Just another 67 running change.

[67gtasanjose]

FYI later in the production year maybe may 67? all of the SB boxes transitioned to the rag joint box. Just another 67 running change.

My understanding is that the donut looking seal was used ONLY on the "long shaft steering gear boxes", when used for Mustangs with the "fixed" columns (non-tilt) applications EXCEPT for S-codes. My understanding is that the S-codes typically all used the short shaft gear boxes and therefore DID NOT have the donut, but used the two-piece plate with a rubber seal (inner tube looking rubber with a thin rubber sleeve wrapping the column, same plate & rubber sleeve used on tilt column applications) 

CORRECT! Also, as noted, the DONUT is only used on the LONG shaft steering boxes. I was hoping to not muddy the waters too much since the O.P. mentioned BOTH S-code and that he is working on an April build with the split column retainer.

I suppose I could have included the additional information that may help others.

It's like Deja vu all over again.

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12766.msg77595#msg77595

YEP!