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Offline willy001

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S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« on: March 02, 2015, 12:39:23 PM »
I'm having a bit of trouble determining the correct engine ID codes for a 69 S code (390) with the Auto transmission.
I believe the correct code is K385S which is what ECS and Mustangs unlimited sell.
Virginia classics and NPD sell a K385T for the auto trans. They all agree on the manual trans as a K384S
So is the A/T car a K385S or a K385T?

Bill
1969 GT Sportsroof
390 S code
4 speed
AC, PS, PB
San Jose 10/24/68

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 04:28:42 PM »
First question - sorry have to ask- Does your engine have the aluminum ID tag still attached to it?

Code would be stamped on it if it is.
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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 06:34:35 PM »
Unfortunately it does not.  Truth is that's what I'm trying to find. I thought I could figure out the correct tag number by looking up the engine sticker numbers. That's when things got a bit confusing so here I am trying to find some answers. If push comes to shove I'll have Marti make a repo tag but I would much prefer an original.
1969 GT Sportsroof
390 S code
4 speed
AC, PS, PB
San Jose 10/24/68

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 10:00:28 PM »
............I'll have Marti make a repo tag but I would much prefer an original.

Of course finding an original from the same time period will be a challenge.

Will look though some data and documents and see if I can provide that for you
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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 10:02:11 PM »
Marti's tag book lists 384 for M/T, 385 for A/T. The "S" and "T" would be change level codes, and his book does not cover that level of detail.

His book is superb, by the way. Anyone who is restoring a Mustang should own at least two copies. One for the garage and one for the nightstand  8)

http://www.martiauto.com/itemselection.cfm?item=Book-Tagbook
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 11:09:22 PM »
Thank you Jeff. Any info would be helpful.
Thanks WT8095. It appears the question now is when did the  S change to T?
1969 GT Sportsroof
390 S code
4 speed
AC, PS, PB
San Jose 10/24/68

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2015, 07:11:41 PM »
Checked my buildsheets and unfortunately no automatic cars to help out. :(
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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2015, 09:36:07 PM »
Thank you Jeff. Any info would be helpful.
Thanks WT8095. It appears the question now is when did the  S change to T?
'75 MPC section 60.6 lists a few PCV system differences before/after 2/21/69. No mention of change levels S or T. You could get a copy of the MPC and read it cover-to-cover to look for others...  :)  :)
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 11:33:20 AM »
Well ... good enough. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
I guess I'll start paying attention to revision codes and build dates on original tags and see if I can find a pattern.

Bill
1969 GT Sportsroof
390 S code
4 speed
AC, PS, PB
San Jose 10/24/68

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Re: S code 390 engine I.D. codes
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2015, 05:32:07 PM »
Just as a comment - in some cases the S or T had to do with accessories attached to the engine rather than a revision ;)

AC - Non AC is one such example
Jeff Speegle

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