Topic: Window Channel Lining

[DM_1964]

Does anyone know if the stick on felt type material (pic attached) used to the line the window channel is reproduced?
Example is from a 66 SJ GT Convertible...

[J_Speegle]

Don't think that was "stick on" it was formed with a machine IMHO into the part when it was produced

Hopefully someone has found an exact copy of the channel - the form and function was used on most cars with wing windows since thew 30's - just different sizes and looks

[petersixtfive]

Jeff
I think he is referring to the window channel inside the rear of the door with the moleskin material
And not the front vent window channel

Npd have a repro version
You need to install it in 2 pieces as it is not wide enough to cover the inside of the channel in one go
Looks ok if you join it on the bottom inside
Cheers

[CharlesTurner]

Yes, it was just glued on material, think Jeff might have thought it was a pic of the front liner.

The repro stuff is ok, I like to save originals if possible.  Can cause the glass frame to bind up if the material is too thick.

[rockhouse66]

You need to install it in 2 pieces as it is not wide enough to cover the inside of the channel in one go
Looks ok if you join it on the bottom inside
Cheers

I have done this and it is quite the PIA job as I recall.  I too thought his picture was of the front piece, not the rear.  If it is the front, I ended up buying NOS because I couldn't find a way to replace that felt material and the repros didn't seem to fit right (surprise!).

[J_Speegle]

............. think Jeff might have thought it was a pic of the front liner.

Yep 

[DM_1964]

Thanks for all the replies, as usual, it's greatly appreciated.

This topic seems to be cover back in Jan '13 (a good reminder to search before posting) - http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5652.msg31999#msg31999

I was going to post something about this at the beginning, but I thought surely the NPD material width has been "fixed" by now.  Apparently not.  I had the same issue.  I used 2X the material, and ran the pieces side by side to get 100% coverage like the original.  It was a PIA to do, but looked pretty good when I got done and works like the original.

rockhouse66, did you have any binding issues?
Unfortunately the mohair material has worn away in areas so it needs to be replaced.

Just in case, here is the link to NPD repro item: http://www.npdlink.com/store/products/run_door_glass_rear-103775-0.html

Thanks again!

[rockhouse66]

Mine turned out fine and works like original.  My original probably would have "worked" OK but looked shabby and now looks new.  It is just a lot of trouble cleaning all the old stuff out, then trimming and gluing the new stuff and especially matching the edge where you have to mate the two strips due to the insufficient width.

[DM_1964]

Mine turned out fine and works like original.  My original probably would have "worked" OK but looked shabby and now looks new.  It is just a lot of trouble cleaning all the old stuff out, then trimming and gluing the new stuff and especially matching the edge where you have to mate the two strips due to the insufficient width.

Thanks Jim, sounds like a bit of time and effort should get the job done.

[drummingrocks]

I posted that thread in January '13 dealing with the same issue.  I did like everyone else said, and ran two pieces of moleskin side by side.  At the time, I called NPD explained the issue; they were nice enough to send out the needed extra pieces free of charge.

I can't speak for everyone that's done this, but I went with this correct material to try and correct some binding issues I had on my '66 fastback.  At the time, I had the fuzzy material that NPD and most other vendors carried before the moleskin became available.  I really thought that replacing this functional replacement with the original style moleskin would solve my window issues, but it didn't.  Again, I can't speak for everyone, but something's still not right on my fastback.  I can roll the windows down, but my wife has a hard time.  And this is a car that we had every nut and bolt off of, so I know the tracks aren't bent and that the regulators are clean and well-greased. 

I still say that if you can find it, a track with original material is the way to go. 

[rocket289k]

I posted that thread in January '13 dealing with the same issue.  I did like everyone else said, and ran two pieces of moleskin side by side.  At the time, I called NPD explained the issue; they were nice enough to send out the needed extra pieces free of charge.

I can't speak for everyone that's done this, but I went with this correct material to try and correct some binding issues I had on my '66 fastback.  At the time, I had the fuzzy material that NPD and most other vendors carried before the moleskin became available.  I really thought that replacing this functional replacement with the original style moleskin would solve my window issues, but it didn't.  Again, I can't speak for everyone, but something's still not right on my fastback.  I can roll the windows down, but my wife has a hard time.  And this is a car that we had every nut and bolt off of, so I know the tracks aren't bent and that the regulators are clean and well-greased. 

I still say that if you can find it, a track with original material is the way to go.

I had a similar problem using the same material in the window channels.  The main issue was that the alignment of the front and rear window channels wasn't spot on.  You need to get that as close to perfectly parallel as possible.  Obviously, this is a bit of a pain because you are also trying to align the glass to mate nicely with door the weather stripping, align nicely with the rear quarter glass etc.  After a bunch of messing around I finally got everything to align and roll up properly (with a "normal" amount of effort).  It doesn't take much misalignment to mess things up and make the window roll up tighter than usual.

Regards,

Ron

[outlawincorporated]

DOM,

the last car I restored I used a original set of channels  from a donor car that I sourched for parts only.  it was better than what I had taken from my car to begin with.  a tip ONLY try barry from Early pony parts in Bendigo Victoria Australia.. he might have something better than what you have to work with.....  Just trying to help

regards.

PHILL BERESFORD.
MELBOURNE
AUSTRALIA.

[DM_1964]

a tip ONLY try barry from Early pony parts in Bendigo Victoria Australia.. he might have something better than what you have to work with.....  Just trying to help

Thanks Phill, I spoke to Barry, he said parts are getting scarce so repro is probably the only way to go...