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Offline Hipo giddyup

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1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« on: July 19, 2013, 10:45:33 AM »
  Hi all, I have just, last weekend, fired up my rebuilt 260. It ran through about 2-3 gallons of gas and then started sputtering. I kept cranking a bit but no fuel is filling up the carb. I opened the 2100 and filled the front bowl to get the car started, hoping it would help the pump, but after that fuel ran out it sputtered and stopped. Now the fuel pump was an old NOS, but not a Ford unit. It has the diaphragm sandwiched between the top and bottom halves, held together by numerous screws. My questions is since I'm very sure the fuel pump has given out, (it did start to make a slight ticking sound so I'm guessing the diaphragm ruptured?), I am wondering what is the correct looking replacement for this motor and where to possibly locate one? This  64 Mustang  was a June built Dearborn car, 260 v8, 3 speed.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Offline ChrisV289

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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 11:07:20 AM »
The original fuel pump was a Carter button top fuel pump that possibly could be found on ebay but would need to be rebuilt by Fred Ballard in California as the halfs of the fuel pump are crimped together, not screwed together.  I am not sure but i'm sure someone would know if Fred is still rebuilding these pumps or not...

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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 11:20:00 AM »
  Thanks Chris. So if I don't go with a concourse unit, would a crimped style reproduction be correct rather than the "screw type"? I have seen where the AC delco replacements were "screw type".  Attached is a pic of the fuel pump that is currently on the engine.
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 12:24:10 PM »
You can probably get a rebuild kit for the screw-together pump you have.
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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2013, 04:17:32 PM »
More info about the correct 260 Carter pump can be found at this thread:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4536.msg25332#msg25332

The rebuild kit for your type of fuel pump runs about $35 and most vendors carry it. Several members on this site can also rebuild and restore it for you. Check Out Tim's site too
 http://www.428cobrajetcars.com/services

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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 03:47:35 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I purchased a crimped style locally to get me going in the meantime. The car will be mainly for shows and I will be painting it this fall so i have sometime to find the correct core. The shame of it all is that i threw the old fuel pump away and i know it was a two piece carter but cant remember seeing the button top. Ugh.
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 06:27:41 PM »
Just happened to come across this thread, as I am looking for a rebuild kit for my 1964-1/2 260 with a carter fuel pump.  I know Fred is rebuilding these.  However, you stated that the original Carter was a crimped style.  I have an original owner car with only 32,000 miles on it, and it is a screw together pump. 
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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 07:01:55 PM »
Quote from: must69 on February 06, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
Just happened to come across this thread, as I am looking for a rebuild kit for my 1964-1/2 260 with a carter fuel pump.  I know Fred is rebuilding these.  However, you stated that the original Carter was a crimped style.  I have an original owner car with only 32,000 miles on it, and it is a screw together pump. 
Phil

One of the cars I'm restoring is an April 64.5 coupe with a 260.  Have the original fuel pump and it also is the screw-together type.
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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2014, 02:48:14 PM »
Quote from: ChrisV289 on July 19, 2013, 11:07:20 AM
The original fuel pump was a Carter button top fuel pump that possibly could be found on ebay but would need to be rebuilt by Fred Ballard in California as the halfs of the fuel pump are crimped together, not screwed together.  I am not sure but i'm sure someone would know if Fred is still rebuilding these pumps or not...

Chris
Chris I disagree with you on this. The correct original full pump for 64.5 V8 was a Carter X  part number 3734-S not a button top. Also was a screw together not crimped.  Fred has rebuilt a couple of those for me and does great work. That would be especially true if this car has a 5 bolt block.
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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 03:34:45 PM »
Quote from: CW4macret on February 07, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Chris I disagree with you on this. The correct original full pump for 64.5 V8 was a Carter X  part number 3734-S not a button top. Also was a screw together not crimped.  Fred has rebuilt a couple of those for me and does great work. That would be especially true if this car has a 5 bolt block.
+1 . screw together for early car.
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Re: 1964 1/2 Fuel pump question??
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2014, 07:37:09 AM »
Let me know if you need early pump rebuilt as I do the screw together pumps?
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