Topic: Window hardware

[Stangly]

Does anybody have any photos of the left and right side windows for a 69 sportsroof.  I'm in the process of restoring the hardware, glass channels, regulators etc.  I noticed the glass (carlite) pieces are cut different from one side to the other.  The drives side is curved upwards at the bottom and the glass channels bolt thru holes in the glass.  The passenger side bottom of the glass (carlite) is flat and the glass is adhered into the channels.  Is there supposed to be a difference between the two sides or has one of them maybe been replaced.

Thank you,

David,

[Asm109]

The change to the bolt in was made because so many of the earlier design were coming loose.  Most likely the bolt in is a repair job from some point in the past.

It is possible but unlikely that your car was built on the day they were changing over and got one of each.  If anybody knows if that were possible, it is the people on this forum.

I have a 69 that was built on the day they changed backup light lenses from thin to thick.  I have one thick lens and the other side has 3! thin lenses stacked together.

[J_Speegle]

I think the first place I would start the investigation to what is going on is to look at the dates on the glass to get an idea when they were made - might answer allot of questions    in the end

Just a thought

[Stangly]

These are the numbers I found on the glass they were below the Carlite logo.
LH side (holes thru glass) - 9D        AS2
                                              FM-M60
RH side(no holes in glass) - 0D or 6D(hard to read)        AS2
                                                            FM-M60

The glass channels on the RH side have the FOMCO stamping and LH side bears no stamping's that I can see.

Thanks guys for the help,

David,
   

[J_Speegle]

The difference in the dates might be an indicator and reason for a difference in the cut of the two windows

[Stangly]

Thanks guys for the clarification.

[midlife]

The difference in the dates might be an indicator and reason for a difference in the cut of the two windows

Yes, but the 0D suggests 70 glass and the 9D suggests 69 glass, but the description (bolt vs. glued base) is opposite, does it not?

[J_Speegle]

Yes, but the 0D suggests 70 glass and the 9D suggests 69 glass, but the description (bolt vs. glued base) is opposite, does it not?

Only if you look at it from the production line practices but instead the non- bolt in may have been replaced during the first year (explaining the 0D date)

Now the 9D being the bolt in might support the idea/belief that some very late 69's received bolt in windows.  David didn't mention in the earlier post when his car was built - normally one of the two questions that are often asked of thread starters

[Stangly]

Guys,

I checked the dates on the glue in piece and it is 0D this would be on the passenger side.  The build date was June 12, I should update my profile to reflect when in the month my car was built.  After cleaning up the two sides I have noticed that the channels and connecting points are quite different between the glue in and bolt in channels.  What type of adhesive is the best to use on the glue in channels.

Thank you,
David,

[J_Speegle]

  What type of adhesive is the best to use on the glue in channels.

Last set we did I belive we used the newer structural adhesive (read epoxy) that are designed fro attaching panels on cars

[Stangly]

Thanks I'll check that out.

[midlife]

Last set we did I belive we used the newer structural adhesive (read epoxy) that are designed fro attaching panels on cars

Jeff:
doesn't the use of that structural adhesive epoxy mean that you'll never be able to remove the glass intact from the frame?  I thought that epoxy is stronger than steel and can't be broken apart...

[J_Speegle]

Jeff: doesn't the use of that structural adhesive epoxy mean that you'll never be able to remove the glass intact from the frame?  I thought that epoxy is stronger than steel and can't be broken apart...

IF it works correctly then yes it would have to me ground off or at least enough to get it to release.

Not saying its the best way just the way I choose

In fact got to restick the little bronze bird back to the rocks around the pool (one came off today when I bumped it)   it was stuck with the same stuff