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Offline Tiny

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Painting Door Grain
« on: December 11, 2018, 04:43:40 PM »
Looking for some advice on painting the inside door grain on my 66 Coupe.  Currently the actual door color is Springtime Yellow whilst the interior is black.  I noticed that neither has no undercoat/primer, just the color.  I assume this is because putting too many layers will hide the grain.  I want to maximize the look of the grain as much as possible when I repaint.  Any hints on the best way to achieve this when laying down the paint.
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2018, 04:49:52 PM »
A light coat of DP90 primer, followed by a coat of correct black.  Stay within the recommended topcoat time for the base primer for max adhesion.
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 07:09:56 PM »
Strip all the old paint off the door interior first with a chemical stripper. Use a plastic scrubber (a dish washer type) to remove the deeper old paint. Gloves are a must. Do not use sandpaper, a wire wheel or steel wool. In other words, get it to factory level, then prime as Charles indicated.
(Same color combinations as my 66 Hardtop "driver".)
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 08:25:05 PM »
Thanks guys much appreciated.  I'll have to search for the DP90 Primer as I cant seem to locate the product in Australia.  Not sure if there is an equivalent product I can use.

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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 09:53:42 PM »
Thanks guys much appreciated.  I'll have to search for the DP90 Primer as I cant seem to locate the product in Australia.  Not sure if there is an equivalent product I can use.

Thanks Again

It's an epoxy primer.  Check with a local auto paint supply store and ask them for a recommendation of something comparable.
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2018, 03:29:10 AM »
Tiny
Where in Australia are you located
There is a couple of options for black primer but not from PPG
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2018, 02:40:59 PM »
Hi Peter I am located in Melbourne Australia
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2018, 08:18:23 PM »
Peter, use a standard etch primer as they bind strongly to the metal and are a very thin coat, which doesn't fill the grain. Use a black primer, as your top coats will be thin and this helps build the color. The best paint for door grain is an acrylic laquer as you lay it down with lots of very light coats and that also stops the grain filling with paint and with doors, you are aiming more for a 'cosmtetic' rather than 'protective' paint job. That means that the paint doesn't go on heavy as you are aiming for good looks.

As everyone has said, preparation is the key and you need to remove all the paint from the door panels as that will dictate what the final look is going to be. If you have any surface rust underneath the paint, then rubbing with scotchbrite will clean it up without damaging the grain.
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2018, 08:38:05 PM »
Thanks Brad, great advice.  I'll post some pictures once I paint the doors.

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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2018, 08:47:25 PM »
Pay very close attention to the recoat time on the primer.
You must paint a top coat within this recoat time or some tell you to scuff the primer.
You don't want to do that or you will lose some of the crispness of the metal grain.

Have everything ready and spray the top/color coat within the window.

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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2018, 01:58:40 PM »
This may or may not be obvious, but be sure to use a compatible primer with the lacquer....you don't want it to start lifting or wrinkling. Maybe perform a test on a separate panel???
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2024, 09:23:43 AM »
For '72 was the door grain a stamped pattern in the metal or applied as a texture prior to paint?

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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2024, 12:16:05 PM »
For '72 was the door grain a stamped pattern in the metal or applied as a texture prior to paint?
The door grain is stamped into the metal.
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Re: Painting Door Grain
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2024, 05:55:59 PM »
Guess you have standard interior and your askign about the thin door trim panel on the top edge of the interior of the door.

As Bob wrote its stamped in the steel so to refinish it you'll need to strip (not sand) all of the piant off and repaintit without putting on too much paint and filling the grain. Real easy job



For others watching no that isn't a factory speaker or grill just a handy generic 72 door panel pictures I found quickly
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