Author Topic: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker  (Read 2712 times)

Offline J_Speegle

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65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« on: April 06, 2017, 11:16:07 PM »
Looking to confirm that the taillight wire loom for an alternator equipped 65 fastback would have be C5ZZ-1405-D - wire label of C5ZB-14405-D

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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 12:22:31 AM »
Looking to confirm that the taillight wire loom for an alternator equipped 65 fastback would have be C5ZZ-1405-D - wire label of C5ZB-14405-D
The "book" says C5ZB-14405-J and -K (with backup lights) are the only two taillight harnesses for fastbacks. My notes indicate the label should be on the harness near the RH rear tail light. I'll check mine tomorrow. It's raining right now.
- an alternator equipped 65 fastback -
Really?
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 12:37:58 AM »
There would be a difference between generator and alternator rear wire harnesses... generator with pig-tails/plugs at tail light housings, alternator push-on.
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 12:44:31 AM »
There would be a difference between generator and alternator rear wire harnesses... generator with pig-tails/plugs at tail light housings, alternator push-on.

I think he's referring to the time period the generator was done away with/replaced with the alternator compared to when the fastback was first assembled for sale to the public.

Generator fastbacks would have likely been the test and pilot cars we sometimes see reference to in May/June of 64

Wire loom was the same as the coupe so if I had written that I woudln't have expected Jim to comment :)
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 04:51:02 PM »
Looking to confirm that the taillight wire loom for an alternator equipped 65 fastback would have be C5ZZ-1405-D - wire label of C5ZB-14405-D
I guess it's time to ask the important questions: what plant; what build date (a VIN would be nice); what options (back-up lights being one).
There would be a difference between generator and alternator rear wire harnesses... generator with pig-tails/plugs at tail light housings, alternator push-on.
Really? A factory 65 Fastback with a generator would be priceless.
Generator fastbacks would have likely been the test and pilot cars we sometimes see reference to in May/June of 64
See above.
Wire loom was the same as the coupe  -
Then it did not have the rear interior lights?
I woudln't have expected Jim to comment :)
Thank you.
My May 65, San Jose GT Fastback, without backup lights, has a red tape type tag located just to the left of the built-in plastic push on wire retainer that goes to the outer right hand tail light stud. The tag is way to fragile to attempt to remove (I may have gone too far as it is).
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 05:17:43 PM »
Whoops, I didn't see the 'fastback' part of the original comment.
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Re: Need confirmation for a wire loom number
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 08:35:28 PM »
I think my wire tag is orange but will need to confirm when I get back. I don't know if my numbers are readable. I have backup lights.
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2017, 10:47:52 PM »
Sorry it took awhile. I was installing my rear valance and backup lights when I looked at the tag and remembered this topic. Hope this helps. SJ fastback backup lights
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2017, 12:14:29 AM »
I was installing my rear valance and backup lights when I looked at the tag and remembered this topic. Hope this helps. SJ fastback backup lights
They look as fragile as mine which is why I stopped trying to unwind the labels on my 65 Fastback.
Jim
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Re: Need confirmation for a wire loom number
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2017, 01:01:45 AM »
So I looked at NPD's reproduction of this tag and it is blue.  I guess they changed colors of the tag later on in production??  I contacted ECS automotive to see what color theirs is.  Waiting to hear back.
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 09:56:12 AM »
I have always seen red on a '65 San Jose fastback without back-up lights.



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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 10:11:49 AM »
Mine is for SJ with backup lights, has the K at the end as confirmed by Jim.
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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2024, 03:59:06 PM »
Marcus recently posted pictures of an unrestored 65 San Jose 6 cylinder fastback that included a close up of the sticker/label being discussed here so reposting them to add to this discussion and collection

Car information - 5R09T149432 - No back up lights





Label C5ZB-14405-K on orange colored material



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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2024, 04:17:33 PM »
Four additional examples I've collected since the original posting. Can't see the engineering number on each but the color can be used to identify which one/version they likely were. Believe there might be another thread on the subject or at least related since some of these have been posted before

5R09C14xxxx Same as others we've seen built around Oct 64 at San Jose



5R09C15089x


5R09C15468x



5R09C18005xx


Guess I need to look up each example and post if the car had back up or no pack up lights. Will put it on the list  :)

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Re: 65 Fastback Wire Loom ID Sticker
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2024, 04:32:33 PM »
Yup. That's the same size, same "red" (not orange) color and same part number illegibiltally on my 65.
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