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Carter 4441S fuel pump
« on: October 17, 2022, 12:41:48 AM »
I was looking to upgrade the the Carter fuel pump I got from Jegs a year ago to a Carter 4441S fuel pump with a 14B9A date on it. Ford engineering part number is C7AZ-9350.  My 69 SCJ was actually built 3-20-1969. Obviously, this is a rare part and it is rebuilt with AMK seal kit that makes it compatible to run with ethanol even though I never use ethanol to my knowledge. Is this going to be the correct date and pump for my car. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2022, 11:57:29 AM »
I was looking to upgrade the the Carter fuel pump I got from Jegs a year ago to a Carter 4441S fuel pump with a 14B9A date on it. Ford engineering part number is C7AZ-9350.  My 69 SCJ was actually built 3-20-1969. Obviously, this is a rare part and it is rebuilt with AMK seal kit that makes it compatible to run with ethanol even though I never use ethanol to my knowledge. Is this going to be the correct date and pump for my car. Thanks in advance for any help.
Short answer is most likely yes . 
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2022, 04:50:54 PM »
I was looking to upgrade the the Carter fuel pump I got from Jegs a year ago to a Carter 4441S fuel pump with a 14B9A date on it. Ford engineering part number is C7AZ-9350.  My 69 SCJ was actually built 3-20-1969.......................... Is this going to be the correct date and pump for my car. Thanks in advance for any help.

Would say that the date would be an acceptable date and one that would not likely be questioned on a car built on 3/20/69 but if you really want further confirmation you chould compare when the engine was assembled (date) to the fuel pump date  ;)
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2022, 06:42:14 PM »
Thank you Bob and Jeff for your usual fast and helpful reply. The engine  assembly date vs.the block casting date. Is there a difference ? I know of the 9B1 which is stamped into the oil filter adapter assembly on the block next to the oil filter. Is that the same as the block assembly date.? If so it should be a good pairing for the block and the fuel pump correct ? Or maybe not ?
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2022, 07:07:38 PM »
Thank you Bob and Jeff for your usual fast and helpful reply. The block assembly date vs.the block casting date. Is there a difference ? I know of the 9B1 which is stamped into the oil filter adapter assembly on the block next to the oil filter. Is that the same as the block assembly date.? If so it should be a good pairing for the block and the fuel pump correct ?

There is often a day or more difference between when the engine was cast and a date after the block was removed from the mold, checked, machined and all of the parts installed. There is also a date showing when the engine block was machined which would fall between both the casting and assembly date.

What you described in the quoted post, is likely not stamped (the 9B1) but cast into the block  given the location and would be the casting date. Fuel pump date would be prior to the assembly date
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2022, 07:26:42 PM »
Jeff, thank you and you are correct, the 9B1 is the casting date for the block. However, I am confused because it sounds like the pump is not prior to the assembly date but post assembly date if the pump was made Feb 14th  and the block must have been assembled Feb 1-3 of 69. Am I missing something here. :) Is there an actual assembly date available on the engines. The machine work is a big question in the time line then as well.

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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2022, 08:18:51 PM »
Jeff, thank you and you are correct, the 9B1 is the casting date for the block. However, I am confused because it sounds like the pump is not prior to the assembly date but post assembly date if the pump was made Feb 14th  and the block must have been assembled Feb 1-3 of 69. Am I missing something here. :) Is there an actual assembly date available on the engines. The machine work is a big question in the time line then as well.
The block casting date is when the block was cast at the foundry and not when the engine was assembled in the engine dept. The date stamped into the oil filter adapter is for that part only. The engine assembly date is typically metal stamped on the driver side front near where the block meets the heads on one of the casting ears.
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2022, 08:50:42 PM »
Jeff, thank you and you are correct, the 9B1 is the casting date for the block. However, I am confused because it sounds like the pump is not prior to the assembly date but post assembly date if the pump was made Feb 14th  and the block must have been assembled Feb 1-3 of 69. Am I missing something here. :) ..............

No it didn't have to be assembled during those few days unless you know the engine is original and the completion date of the car is the next following days but I see from earlier posts you car wasn't completed for over another month. "My 69 SCJ was actually built 3-20-1969"

Bob's post will help with the location of the assemble date
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2022, 09:37:12 PM »
Thank you for the education gentlemen. From all I can deduct, the fuel pump is completely correct and it will be a nice addition to the engine. Jeff, was your SCJ made in SJ and Gulf stream aqua by chance ? Mine had a twin, 1 of 2 made that day in that plant. Thank you.
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Re: Carter 4441S fuel pump
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2022, 10:47:08 PM »
............ Jeff, was your SCJ made in SJ and Gulf stream aqua by chance ? Mine had a twin, 1 of 2 made that day in that plant. Thank you.

No none of them was. Last one I had was a R code 4 speed special paint car
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