Topic: Painting '69 351W

[drummingrocks]

I'm almost to the stage of painting the 351 Windsor for my '69 Mach 1.  I've spent the last few weeks picking the block up from the machine shop and assembling everything.  I want to get my motor as correct looking as possible. 

In general terms, how did Metuchen paint engines in '69?  What was painted on the motor, what bolts should be painted?  What should be painted separately?  My car was built June 5th, 1969.

Thanks!

[Popa G]

Since nobody responded to you I thought I show you what I did. This is supposed to be a very low mile original car, I copied the engine as much as possible.  I just didn't have any other info to go on, I'm sure it's out there but I couldn't find it.

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/mump_1002_1969_ford_mustang_mach_1/photo_06.html

[J_Speegle]

I'm almost to the stage of painting the 351 Windsor for my '69 Mach 1.  ............
In general terms, how did Metuchen paint engines in '69?  What was painted on the motor, what bolts should be painted?  What should be painted separately?  My car was built June 5th, 1969.

The engine was painted as a unit so you have a long block (block, freeze plugs, heads & crank, rods.....) with the timing cover, dip tube & dip stick, oil pan & plug, water pump and intake (with heater hose elbow). With all of their retaining bolts. This would also mean that the small K shaped bypass hose and retaining clamps were in place also

Looking at pictures of engines I can't see any bare valve cover bolts like on earlier Windsor engines so it appears that the valve covers were in place when painted with gasket "ears" getting paint also

Exhaust manifolds would have been in place (NO gaskets) and would have received some paint along the upper edges that would burn off in time and with them in place they would have created a shadow below/behind them on the block in some areas


Sure I missed something

[drummingrocks]

Thanks Jeff, that definitely helps!

[Bob Gaines]

Since nobody responded to you I thought I show you what I did. This is supposed to be a very low mile original car, I copied the engine as much as possible.  I just didn't have any other info to go on, I'm sure it's out there but I couldn't find it.

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/mump_1002_1969_ford_mustang_mach_1/photo_06.html

Interesting on that original low milage car that it had a 27 F battery. The base battery for a relative no option 351w car (Mach I or GT350)is a 22F Battery. After blowing up the picture of the window sticker I did not see a charge for the heavy duty battery option that a 27F battery would be. Maybe a little past owner influence and maybe not. Bob

[PerkinsRestoration]

Bob,
 Look a little closer at the battery you reference in picture. It's the original assembly line 24 that is original to the car. The standard battery in a 69 351W Mustang was a group 24. There is no such thing as a assembly line group 22 battery for 1969. The standard battery for a 69 Mustang 6 cyl. Boss 302 etc. is a SV21R. Same size case as the service 22 battery.The SV21R was an assembly line only battery. Very rare as it was not serviced thru Autolite Parts Division.

[Bob Gaines]

Bob,
 Look a little closer at the battery you reference in picture. It's the original assembly line 24 that is original to the car. The standard battery in a 69 351W Mustang was a group 24. There is no such thing as a assembly line group 22 battery for 1969. The standard battery for a 69 Mustang 6 cyl. Boss 302 etc. is a SV21R. Same size case as the service 22 battery.The SV21R was an assembly line only battery. Very rare as it was not serviced thru Autolite Parts Division.

Bob, thanks for pointing out the 24F. I see it now when I look closely at the tag.  From the angle it gave me the optical illusion of the longer 27F.  I have found several of the equivalent size 67 and back smaller assemblyline batteries that were dead (still in my possession)over the years but I have never even found a assemblyline 21R assemblyline battery dead or otherwise and very much agree that they must be rare. I have found a significant number of 69 GT350's that are non air small radiator cars that still had the smaller 22F/21R trays still in them. I have seen many of those smaller trays replaced to the larger 24F trays in 67 and 69 GT350's  but never seen any of the larger trays replaced for the smaller 22F/21R trays so I have never had any reason to question the smaller size battery trays when I found them in those cars. Most of the time I will find the original smaller tray with one end folded down so the longer 24F battery will sit flat. Since the GT350 351W started out as a Mach I and finding the smaller trays in many of those cars that hadn't been changed out , the pattern  lead me to the conclusion that the smaller battery was the base battery for the GT350/351W just as in the Boss 302 application based on the tray as providence. These are just some of my observations on the GT350 /351W battery varient for the discussion. Bob

[PerkinsRestoration]

The SV21R was introduced in 1969 model year. The SV22R was the OE battery Prior to 1969.