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Offline ruppstang

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2019, 10:56:35 PM »
The 1967 tilt system does not use a canister by the battery. That is the 1968 system.

Here is the 67 tilt can under the battery that Bob was referring to.

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2019, 11:22:37 PM »
Here is the 67 tilt can under the battery that Bob was referring to.

Thank you for that.  I found an original canister like that a week or so ago, but now I can't seem to find it.  It was probably on EBay and sold.  I see above that there was a change around April of 67 but I'm not sure that it would be applicable to my situation since I will have the a/c and the tilt setup. 
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2019, 02:01:00 AM »
I believe that if a 1967 car had both Factory A/C and Tilt, it only used one Vacuum Cannister ; the large oblong one that mounted on the rear inner Fender Apron. If not mentioned in this thread previously, I believe that there are others on just the Vacuum Reservoirs that support this.

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2019, 05:56:14 AM »
As I posted earlier today, I am installing a tilt in my 13 July 67 coupe, which I would assume would be one of the later 67 systems?  I have factory air with the two hose through apron canister under the hinge.  You mention that the later 67's used a canister under the battery but on the tire side of the apron.  Is that only applicable to air, tilt, AND speed control, with the speed control using the lower canister?

I corrected my earlier reply.. This whole canister ordeal certainly has many of us boggled but there is a certain pattern of results that indicate a few running changes. Very early cars tend to use the oblong canister alone unless speed control is present. without AC has different patterns so we will not include those patterns. Earlier, I said only one hose on the battery tray brace mounted canister used later in the year. That was incorrect, it would have two hoses.

I believe that if a 1967 car had both Factory A/C and Tilt, it only used one Vacuum Cannister ; the large oblong one that mounted on the rear inner Fender Apron. If not mentioned in this thread previously, I believe that there are others on just the Vacuum Reservoirs that support this.

Bob
Bob, this is true at least early in the year and through at least December 66 by findings. I think the added canister mounted under the battery tray (attached to the brace as Marty has pictured) began early in 67 like January to March time frame but I do not have the time frame pinned down yet.
We find early cars had no holes pre-punched in the battery tray brace but later cars do.
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2019, 06:13:25 AM »
The 67 tilt system has a hole pattern on the 67 unique battery tray to mount the tilt vacuum canister there. I believe you are thinking of the 68 canister mounted in the apron under the battery tray .
Agree that the 68's were in the apron but do not agree that ALL 67's had holes pre-punched in the battery tray brace for the 67-unique battery brace mounted canister. Research indicates a running change on those pre-punched holes.
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2019, 06:19:40 AM »
Here is the 67 tilt can under the battery that Bob was referring to.
Marty, what is the build date or build dates of the example(s) you have found the unique-67 battery tray-mounted canisters. What other options do these examples have?
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2019, 08:59:02 AM »
It is March 27 1967.

 I do not believe that the early cars used this can under the battery tray un less they were modified by a dealer to install a speed control. Some time back we found instructions that illustrate the movement of the vacuum can to under the battery tray.

To answer the question asked I would say if you have a 67 with tilt, AC and speed control the tilt can should be under the batter tray.

 IMHO there were no customer cars in 67 with a factory installed speed control.   

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2019, 12:47:51 PM »
IMHO there were no customer cars in 67 with a factory installed speed control.

Although, Kevin Marti's book "Mustangs by the Numbers", shows that a "whopping" 55 were "Factory Optioned" in 1967 with the Speed Control. Yet, I suppose that the Factory could have sent the parts along with the car when shipped to the Dealer for the Dealer to install ?

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2019, 01:13:46 PM »
Bob what I meant was the cars that got speed control were demonstrators. There were no customer ordered cars with S.C. There were dealer option kits to install the S.C..

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2019, 03:21:17 PM »
So the 1967 tilt vacuum can is under the battery tray? I was under the assumption it was mounted under the hood hinge on the passenger side.....

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2019, 03:23:58 PM »
So the 1967 tilt vacuum can is under the battery tray? I was under the assumption it was mounted under the hood hinge on the passenger side.....
Depends on the build date.  IMO early = under hinge late = battery tray.  Not a lot of examples so we don’t have the transition dates nailed down.
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2019, 04:14:59 PM »
Im smarter now

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