Author Topic: Red Oxide Primer & Semi Gloss paint to use on 1968 San Jose GT 390  (Read 628 times)

Offline bullitt68

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I am looking to find out what the correct paint would be to paint my engine compartment with. I have seen many varying photos on the internet. From what I can tell so far is that the entire car was painted red oxide primer for the most part. Then the engine compartment was painted semi gloss and then the interior color and then the body color. Please correct me if my assumption is incorrect.

Currently my car will not be receiving any exterior paints the paint looks pretty good, but I plan to repaint the dash and the engine compartment.

The underside of the car is pretty clean. I was planning to paint the underside of the car as well while I am at it, but my painter said that the underside is too nice and very original and suggested just cleaning it up to preserve originality. So far I have stripped all the paint from the engine compartment under the instruction of my painter as he said that the new paint would not stick to the old paint. Are there specific paint brands and or products that I should be using or just have my painter mix up some paint for me. I am also assuming that this should all be pre mixer single stage paint.

Here are a few photos. Just curious how to get the right paint and match the paint so that the new primer/paint will match the current underside primer for a seamless look from front to back under the car. The current plan is to paint the engine compartment with the primer and then paint the black semi gloss from the top leaving all of the underside red oxide exposed. Hopefully that is how the factory did it and or how it should get done correctly. Any help or advise is greatly appreciated

Thanks
« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 08:36:03 PM by bullitt68 »
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Red Oxide Primer & Semi Gloss paint to use on 1968 San Jose GT 390
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 04:57:08 PM »
I am looking to find out what the correct paint would be to paint my engine compartment with. I have seen many varying photos on the internet. From what I can tell so far is that the entire car was painted red oxide primer for the most part. Then the engine compartment was painted semi gloss and then the interior color and then the body color. Please correct me if my assumption is incorrect.

There are a fair number of threads related to the subject and in general 65-68 San Jose car paint process was fairly similar so you might want to visit and read those threads. 

For a short (lacking many details) version

- On the undercarriage an epoxy red oxide primer sealer was applied from jets attached below the moving assembly line that sprayed up onto the body from the firewall rearward. From the firewall rearward the front frame rails and parts of the inner fender panels.

- Unibody with trunk lid & door panels was painted red oxide (other parts off the car were being painted various finishes)

- Once that was done the rear bumper guard brackets, rear valance (hung by only two screws and allowed to hang downward)  and the quarter extensions. Then a light coat of light grey primer surfacer was applied

- Interior paint process was then done and then masked to protect it from the body color application that came next. This included the rear wheel wells and trunk area. The application of body color produced direct application onto the floor pans, frame rails and panels that hung or bent downward while overspray carried further inward.

- Then engine compartment, radiator support (both sides) and inner fender panels (rear splash shield attachment spot to the other side rear splash shield attachment location)

- Then the pinch weld black out from front/leading edge to the rear edge at the rear valance. This produced direct application onto the floor pans, frame rails and panels that hung or bent downward while overspray carried further inward but not typically as much overspray or inward travel of it due to spray angle and lessor gun air pressure. Study pictures of original cars to get an understanding of what the logical results would look like.  Reproducing this and body color overspray  with the spray guns of today take effort and planning since the results are very different


Left out the whole sound deadener (when and where) discussion in this description since you were focusing on paint in your first statement.

While you doing things you might want to check the paint details at the bottom of the doors. A common mistake by many painters ;)

Most use single stage in the engine compartment but because of laws not everyone can get or shot everything. Suggest you do a search and read one of the dozen or som threads on the subject. ;)


Very little to no primer was used in the engine compartment. If your using today's primers most shops use a high build-up product that will change the factory look, fill in details and make the edges, seams and details "soft" and not crisp like originally seen. IMHO
« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 05:06:05 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Red Oxide Primer & Semi Gloss paint to use on 1968 San Jose GT 390
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 08:35:37 PM »
Thanks Jeff appreciate it. I will do some searching here and hopefully I can get all of my questions answered
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

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Re: Red Oxide Primer & Semi Gloss paint to use on 1968 San Jose GT 390
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 10:18:05 PM »
Thanks Jeff appreciate it. I will do some searching here and hopefully I can get all of my questions answered

Sounds like a plan and if something is not clear or you need more ask. Rather explain before than inform after  ::)
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Re: Red Oxide Primer & Semi Gloss paint to use on 1968 San Jose GT 390
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 03:46:40 PM »
Sounds like a plan and if something is not clear or you need more ask. Rather explain before than inform after  ::)

Hi Jeff I have searched the site and I have not found a definitive answer regarding the front lower valence panel. I am assuming that it should be red oxide primer. Mine is currently painted black. Which should it be and would there be any overspray at all if it was painted red oxide first.

Thanks
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968