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Offline denonito

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1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« on: August 11, 2016, 05:57:23 PM »
I was preparing to detail my radiator mounting brackets. I have a 24" radiator currently, the car came with one, and I haven't purchased a MARTI yet, so..
Originally it has a West Modine 24", but was a 12/67 date, so probably not original.
I am looking to use the car as my driver, I live in the South West, so I am going to keep the 24" until I figure out what is correct.
I had some extra bracket sets with insulators, and looked at a couple insulators, didn't see a part number so tossed them in some cleaning solution.
After removing them, now I notice some actually have part numbers....I hate when this happens...
3 of the 10 insulators I was cleaning were BF-C8ZB-8125-A-
all 3 had a different dash number on the end
Searching the web, AutoKrafters listing seems to apply there are differences between not only radiator, but whether it was 2, 3 or 4 row, so maybe 6 different insulators for 1967 alone (289,2 row, 289,3 row....)
I didn't think there were that many variations on 1967 Radiator, especially for the 289, I thought there was only 20" or 24".
Were the original insulators stamped (FOMOCO , PN) for 1967.
What are the correct numbers?

My other brackets included a 1969 1970 style, not sure which set the stamp insulators were in.
Thanks for any help.
Jeff
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Re: 1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 06:19:02 PM »
1967 with 289 should have come with a 20 inch radiator. 1967 S code Mustangs had 22 inch radiators.

24 inch radiators didn't appear until 1968.
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Re: 1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 06:55:20 PM »
I did see a reference somewhere to the 24" starting in 1968, but so many others show it as 1967-68. A lot of people Assuming there...
I don't think I have seen a 22" option when I look for a Repro radiator.
Does the 22" use brackets or bolt on like 20"? I will have to look that up to see a picture.
I don't doubt your information though, it seems like just about everything for a 1967 is different....disc brakes,seat belts, door ajar switch, deluxe shift handle buttons, steering wheel
So which radiator was correct for the Extra Cooling in 1967 with a 289 "A" code.
If it were originally an A/C car, that would get the Extra Cooling by default would it not?
Was that just more rows on the 20" radiator or the same radiator as a "S" code?
I thought the 24" was correct because the car has all the A/C parts. Of course using the internet and forums, I'have determined about half the A/C parts that were on the car or came with it are actually 1968/69 parts...
Jeff
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Re: 1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 10:19:34 PM »
I did see a reference somewhere to the 24" starting in 1968, but so many others show it as 1967-68. A lot of people Assuming there...
I don't think I have seen a 22" option when I look for a Repro radiator.
Does the 22" use brackets or bolt on like 20"? I will have to look that up to see a picture.
I don't doubt your information though, it seems like just about everything for a 1967 is different....disc brakes,seat belts, door ajar switch, deluxe shift handle buttons, steering wheel
So which radiator was correct for the Extra Cooling in 1967 with a 289 "A" code.
If it were originally an A/C car, that would get the Extra Cooling by default would it not?
Was that just more rows on the 20" radiator or the same radiator as a "S" code?
I thought the 24" was correct because the car has all the A/C parts. Of course using the internet and forums, I'have determined about half the A/C parts that were on the car or came with it are actually 1968/69 parts...
Jeff
The 67 BB radiator was one year only . 68 was wider and slightly more capacity . The after market typically does not favor the smaller market because it means less money,especially since the main point is cooling and the 68-70 version does it better. That is why they typically sell one size to fit all in this application. The 67 uses different lower mounting brackets comparted to 68-70. The 67 extra heavy duty SB radiator is different smaller in comparison to the slightly wider 67  BB radiator  The larger radiator was not used on small block cars in 67 unlike 68 where you could get the wider radiator . In 68 the SB extra heavy duty radiator looks the same as the BB version with the exception of the radiator hose nozzle positions.
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Re: 1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 01:26:47 AM »
Bob,
Is the 1967 upper bracket for the S code the same as the 1968 24" bracket?
I have a bracket that looks exactly like the 1968, except it has captive nuts instead of the sheet metal inserts I have seen on all 1968 and 1969-70 brackets.
Maybe a Fairlane bracket?
PO spent a lot of time at the pick a part I think, sometimes I think I should register it as a 1967 1/2 because of all the 1968 parts he swapped in...
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Re: 1967 24" radiator Insulator part number
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2016, 05:43:46 PM »
Is the 1967 upper bracket for the S code the same as the 1968 24" bracket?


Did you happen to read some of the earlier threads related to these upper brackets?

Just a couple


http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6595.msg37485#msg37485


http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg85036#msg85036

As you can see there are some very small differences in some of the brackets


For the future and others a April 68 printing of the MPC shows the following

67 390 - Upper - use with 9A193 support = C7OZ--8125-A
67 390 - Lower - use with 8052 bracket - C3OZ-8125-B
68 390 4V - Lower - C8ZZ-8125-A
« Last Edit: August 27, 2016, 06:07:58 PM by J_Speegle »
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