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Offline jwc66k

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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2020, 08:00:26 PM »
OK, it's time to reveal my "secret". Use Scott Drake 351603-S tubular rivets. They are supposed to be for 64-66 Vent Window Seals but a quick-rough measurement (with a dial caliper) shows the head size to be about the same size as the 64-65 grill end rivets and the rivets used for the two brackets for the grill bars, 8 required, and enough length, 0.200 inch to hold the grill ends to the grill, 0.100 inch (I just measured it with the same dial calipers). The only issue is the body diameter. A quick-rough measurement comes up with about (I'm measuring thru the plastic wrapper, different calipers - "indoor" ones, the other one is a "garage" caliper. You don't have two?) 0.120 inch dia.
The ones I have came from NPD, 21450-1AK, a kit of 10 IN BLACK OXIDE finish. You need a special tool to install.
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2020, 08:03:39 PM »
You should be able to find them I Australia. Run a search for simi-tubular rivets. You want the truss Head style.
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2020, 12:08:43 AM »
Thanks again guys.
I have an order pending from NPD so will talk to JT.
Also will see if I can find them locally in correct size.
Cheers

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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2020, 11:41:49 AM »
Maybe I'm late to the party on this but these are the rivets that I used several years ago.  If they're still available they are a near perfect match to the originals in size, shape and color. 
« Last Edit: August 26, 2020, 11:48:01 AM by Skyway65 »
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2020, 10:59:45 PM »
Someone was just advertising new repro grilles being made right color with black tabs and correct rivets...now if I could remember who
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Offline ChrisV289

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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2020, 01:20:13 AM »
Has anyone bought a reproduction grille recently from NPD? I pointed out to them that they had the holes for both non fog lights and fog lights on the grill for the different locations of the vertical bars instead of drilling the holes for the appropriate application.  Rick from NPD was going to talk to the supplier about that.
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2020, 01:26:42 AM »
I sent JT The same message!  ;D
The correct Grille rivets are actually available. NPD part number 351930-SAK (8 per pack)
I have just chemically paint stripped my original grille and it seems that no semi gloss black came off of the mounting tabs or vertical brackets. is it possible that these were a phosphate and oil finish?
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2020, 01:28:22 AM »
You need a special tool to install.

Can you elaborate on what this tool is please?
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2020, 01:29:10 PM »
Can you elaborate on what this tool is please?
Sure.
Pic 1 is the NPD 927-1 at $103.00 https://www.npdlink.com/
Pic 2 is one from Jay-Cee Sales at $180.00 https://rivetsinstock.com/
You need one each of the following dies. They run about $35.00 - $40.00 each at Jay-Cee Sales.
Pic 3 is the top die, it "fits" the dome of the rivet. There are many styles and sizes.
Pic 4 is the bottom, or the one that "rolls" the rivet. Again, many styles and sizes.
Pic 5 is my arbor press fitted with the dies.
Pic 6 is some of the "fittings" I made.
I've used mine to rebuild 64-66 Mustang ash trays plus a lot of non-Mustang stuff.
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2020, 02:59:10 AM »
Exactly what I was after. Thanks Jim!
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Re: Grille color?- 65
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2020, 05:28:15 PM »
Has anyone bought a reproduction grille recently from NPD? I pointed out to them that they had the holes for both non fog lights and fog lights on the grill for the different locations of the vertical bars instead of drilling the holes for the appropriate application.  Rick from NPD was going to talk to the supplier about that.

I just received a GT one this week and it still has the extra hole for the non GT version. The two rivets on the left hand bracket were not aligned very well. Wish I had seen you post sooner as this one is on the way back.
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