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Offline emptys

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Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« on: March 30, 2015, 01:23:10 PM »
Morning! 
 
We're getting the coil springs ready, and AFAIK, the painted stripes ought to be pink and gold ... is that correct?

The pink was pretty easy to find on the springs, but we've not seen much, if any gold.    If both colors are correct, any chance of getting some sort of idea of what this gold color really looked like?

thanks in advance
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 06:18:56 PM »
We're getting the coil springs ready, and AFAIK, the painted stripes ought to be pink and gold ... is that correct?

Depends - What transmission do you have?

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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 09:27:17 PM »
Depends - What transmission do you have?

Jeff, I've seen a number of build sheets that indicate Gold/Pink for 1969 CJ Mustangs with both automatic and manual transmissions. A/C seems to be the difference - cars with a/c seem to have springs marked Gold/Gray.
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 10:43:54 PM »
Jeff, I've seen a number of build sheets that indicate Gold/Pink for 1969 CJ Mustangs with both automatic and manual transmissions. A/C seems to be the difference - cars with a/c seem to have springs marked Gold/Gray.

Should have asked if it had AC or no AC also

Since we do have body and model type already

Thanks for the reminder
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 12:18:54 AM »
In the case of 68 KRs the coil spring colors change with production dates. You may want to look at that....

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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 01:14:22 AM »
In the case of 68 KRs the coil spring colors change with production dates. You may want to look at that....

Got that from is signature - Oct 11th

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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 11:06:38 AM »
Thanks everyone: non AC,  automatic...
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 06:47:53 PM »
Thanks everyone: non AC,  automatic...

IMHO you would be be served by choosing the 1 Gold & 1 Pink stripes applied while the spring is off of the car with the spring either sitting on its side or on the top flat surface standing up

Apply each stripe from (spring) bottom to top direction allowing each of the loops to get some paint as you quickly and not to carefully bounce from spring loop to loop. Should see the brush marks on at least the exiting side of each o the loops.

Approx 1/2" is in the ball park IMHO

Had the source the paint samples from leaf springs to get large 69 examples that would show well. Pink is a little more difficult since lavender (another color used to mark springs) is not that far off

Hope this helps





Jeff, I've seen a number of build sheets that indicate Gold/Pink for 1969 CJ Mustangs with both automatic and manual transmissions. .......

Scott all of the buildsheets I have also show that combination though  I'm finding that not all of the unrestored 69 CJ's I'm finding, match this color combination in person. Not sure why and on those cars (not a big surprise) the buildsheet is no longer with the cars. Can't explain it yet - just collecting the findings

But that's another subject
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 07:07:55 PM »
Picture is of one of the springs on my car.  4 speed with GLD/PNK on the build sheet.  Picture shows the stripe spacing, at the Metuchen plant, and that the inside facing coils get the paint.  Is that correct ?  Brian
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2015, 07:22:35 PM »
Picture is of one of the springs on my car.  .............  Picture shows the stripe spacing, at the Metuchen plant, and that the inside facing coils get the paint.  Is that correct ? 

Thanks - should have thought to include a generic spring at least to show sizing and spacing as you did - sure it will help the OP

If you asking if the marks will always be on the spring section that faces inward making them hard to see once installed I would suggest no - seen hundreds of original cars where the marks are visible and are located/orientated on the springs so they can be seen with the spring installed

If your asking if the coils were painted on the inside surface of the coils don't believe I've seen that intentionally done on any of my examples . Runs can go a short distance or in some IMHO not so typical examples for a number of inches. In general I've normally seen them travel what looks to be upwards, one the spring was installed, suggesting the positioning of the coil I describe in the prior post as to how they were sitting when the stripes were applied and during drying of the paint
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 09:08:09 PM »
Gold and Pink on my 69 GT Springs were not on the direct outside. So the paint daubs were not completely visible on both sides of the car when installed. Attached are images of the original paint. It was a true metallic gold. I have also enclosed a picture of them when I re-detailed. Please note that they are switched / opposite when I took the re-detailed picture.

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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 10:46:10 PM »
Gold and Pink on my 69 GT Springs were not on the direct outside. So the paint daubs were not completely visible on both sides of the car when installed. Attached are images of the original paint. It was a true metallic gold. .........

When and where was your car built?  Time might have made the difference as to metallic or non.  Would it possibly be a spring 69 car?

I see yours also has the over/under white sprayed stripe that we sometimes see on front springs (maybe one in 50 - as a guess)
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 06:48:31 PM »
Hi Jeff,
October 14, 1968 San Jose Build

I was worried about where that white over spray came from as I had never seen that before. I may have to add some
detail.
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Re: Coil Spring detail question - 69 CJ GT Sportroof
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 08:31:47 PM »
Hi Jeff,
October 14, 1968 San Jose Build

I was worried about where that white over spray came from as I had never seen that before. I may have to add some
detail.

Thanks for the date - helps identify your springs later ;)

From our understanding the springs were tested and if they were at the lower or upper part of the of the range for that kind of spring they were marked so that a worker installing them could install two springs with the white sprayed stripe or without. Matching them closer
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