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Title: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: Hipo giddyup on December 29, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
While re-doing the dash on my 64 1/2 mustang, this peice of rubber fell down from around the glove box area. It measures approximately 1 inch by 1/2 inch. Is this a dampener for when the glove box is "dropped" open or shut hard? I have never ran across this one before. If it does go there, can anyone tell me exactly where so I can put it back? Thanks!
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: CharlesTurner on December 29, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
That's a rubber grommet for the under-dash courtesy light housing.  Kind of rare, not always used.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: Hipo giddyup on December 29, 2013, 08:35:01 PM
Huh, guess that's why I haven't seen it before. Any reference on how it goes back? Thank you
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: NEFaurora on December 29, 2013, 11:38:40 PM

Never seen that one before...!!

What's the approximate location of installation??

:o)

Tony K.

Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: ChrisV289 on December 30, 2013, 01:54:23 AM
Is this the same thing?  I was redoing my heater core on my SJ Oct 64 car last year and it fell out too when I removed the heater core, under dash light, and glove box.  I didn't put it back because I didn't know where it went or how it was installed.  Any pics on how it goes?

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/zpfile000_zps7299385a.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/zpfile000_zps7299385a.jpg.html)

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/zpfile001_zps6be68224.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/zpfile001_zps6be68224.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: suskeenwiske on December 30, 2013, 02:55:47 AM
That little pad lays on top of the teardrop shaped Under Dash Courtesy Light Bracket. You'll find that it fits only one way and follows the shape of the end through which you put the Mounting Hardware to the Dash. It insulates the Bracket from the dash to help prevent damage to the Dash and distortion of the Bracket. The part number of the Pad is C4ZB-13A739-A; don't know if any are still available.

Ray
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: ChrisV289 on December 30, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Found it in the restoration guide on page 323.  Say it is only for the right hand side though.  Wonder why they didn't put one on the left...
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: midlife on December 30, 2013, 09:23:03 PM
Found it in the restoration guide on page 323.  Say it is only for the right hand side though.  Wonder why they didn't put one on the left...
What restoration guide?  I don't know of any that have 323 pages.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: suskeenwiske on December 30, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
I don't know why it's only shown or used on the Passenger Side. Maybe someone out there knows the answer.

Midlife, the guide is pictured below.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: Hipo giddyup on January 01, 2014, 01:16:22 PM
This looks to be correct as this was found on the glove box side. No such insulator on my drivers side light.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 01, 2014, 03:42:01 PM
What restoration guide?  I don't know of any that have 323 pages.

The book referenced is basically reprints of a 72 or 75 version of the MPC only smaller chosen pictures - not all of the pictures from the MPC

Not sure when these were used but it seems that it was very short. Not unusual since Ford changed the bumpers and insulators allot in the first year of production due to fit and rattle issues
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: Socomu on January 25, 2022, 03:16:08 PM
NOTE: The following thirteen posted were merged with an original post on this subject
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Just wanted to share this rare part that Ive never seen before. Upon removing the RH courtesy light in my 66 GT convertible I came across this part, an interior lamp pad. Ford P/N C4ZB-13A739-A. I dont believe this part has ever been reproduced. Only installed on the RH side. Mount between the dash and courtesy light bracket. Made of rubber.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 27, 2022, 05:47:27 PM
Never seen one of those but if convertible only those don't get junked very often so would not have seen them in those situations. Or maybe something only used for a limited period but have not found those on 66 coupes or fastbacks or on later years. Not understand the purpose of them.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: carlite65 on January 27, 2022, 05:49:04 PM
i had one in my junk box but danged if i know what car it came from. dunno where it is now.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: jwc66k on January 27, 2022, 07:21:21 PM
The "pad" is shown in 65 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual (AM0008) pg 19 and 66 Mustang Electrical Manual (AM0013) pg25, for the RH side courtesy light only. It is supposed to be for all models of 65 and 66 Mustangs to clear the "plenum chamber door". The 64 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual (AM0003) pg 15 show the courtesy lamp installed at an 80 degree angle towards the center of the car to provide clearance.
Read the manuals.
Jim
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 27, 2022, 07:26:18 PM
The "pad" is shown in 65 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual (AM0008) pg 19 and 66 Mustang Electrical Manual (AM0013) pg25, for the RH side courtesy light only. It is supposed to be for all models of 65 and 66 Mustangs to clear the "plenum chamber door". ......................

Ever find one on a car?
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: jwc66k on January 28, 2022, 12:07:22 AM
Ever find one on a car?
On a car, no. I did find one in a 5 gallon bucket of hardware removed from salvaged cars, so I can't identify the plant, year or model. It went on a 66 Fastback I sold.
Jim
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: petersixtfive on January 28, 2022, 02:52:54 AM
Only found the one on the passenger side during recent disassembly
Late April 65 build San Jose fastback
So they are out there
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: 196667Bob on January 28, 2022, 11:57:11 AM
Attached are copies from the 1966 Electrical Assembly Manual, and individual Parts and Accessories Catalogs from 1964, 1965, 1967 (I don' have access to my 1966 at the moment), and the 1960-68, and 1965-72 MPC's.
Note that the Assembly Manual only shows this on the Passenger side, and the 1965 Parts and Accessory Catalog confirms this.

Note that this was used on many Models (not just Mustangs), and was only used on 1964-1/2 to 1966 Mustangs (and apparently, not just Convertibles) ; there is no listing for this pad in the 1967 Parts and Accessories Catalog, nor does it show up in the 1967 Electrical Assembly Manual. The other pad/ gasket listed (13A790-A) did not replace the 13A739-A pad, but was for a different location ; I believe for the door mounted courtesy lights for the Deluxe Interiors of 1967 and 1968.

Interesting find though. I would bet that not a lot of them have survived.

Bob
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 28, 2022, 05:42:34 PM
Interesting find though. I would bet that not a lot of them have survived.


Given that according to the drawing that they are captured between the  dash and the light bracket they should still be there if installed on unrestored cars.

Looks like some examples are slowly showing up in the thread.  Need to go out and check the wife's car for this part
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: jwc66k on January 28, 2022, 06:57:10 PM
So looking at the pages you posted the item is only mentioned in one - the first text page posted.
See picture 6.
Jim
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 28, 2022, 07:03:08 PM
See picture 6.
Jim

Thanks guess the posting of the interior door light gaskets confused the post for me. Not sure why they were included but see it now.  ::)

Removed my related text from the earlier post today so I don't confuse the focus even more
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: Socomu on January 29, 2022, 02:27:54 AM
Thanks for all the great info on this part. My GT convertible is unrestored, thats prob why it was still there.  The lamp pad was easily lost since it doesnt attach to anything. I believe the lamp pad came on all 1965 and 1966 Mustangs. All body styles, standard and GT. Only on the RH side because of the heater box.
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: ChrisV289 on January 29, 2022, 06:28:10 PM
That rubber pad was discussed here. I found one in my car

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=7697.msg43946#msg43946
Title: Re: 64-66 Passenger Under Dash Light Spacer
Post by: J_Speegle on January 29, 2022, 10:06:24 PM
That rubber pad was discussed here. I found one in my car

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=7697.msg43946#msg43946

Thanks for remembering that thread Will merge and move it to the Interior section since the application spans multiple years

Almost ten years since that thread was posted  and no one else over that time period found or at least posted over that time period.


Can confirm that that the wife's Feb built 66 has one. Its held tightly between the dash and the light housing. Not going to fall out of there

Choose not to remove it at this time - I'll just lose is somewhere  ::)