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Title: correct fastener finish
Post by: original68 on September 30, 2013, 09:34:38 PM

hello what is the correct finish for the bolts that attach the steering box to the frame.  power steering ram bracket to frame and idler arm to frame. on a 1968 san jose car. mine are corroded and cant make out the correct finish. i was hoping for zinc phosphate as i bought the liquid to replicate the finish. if they are the natural steel color is the best option to spray paint them.  i was hoping to keep the original fasteners and restore them..  thanks for all the help

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 30, 2013, 10:09:12 PM

Quote from: original68 on September 30, 2013, 09:34:38 PM

hello what is the correct finish for the bolts that attach the steering box to the frame.  power steering ram bracket to frame and idler arm to frame. on a 1968 san jose car. mine are corroded and cant make out the correct finish. i was hoping for zinc phosphate as i bought the liquid to replicate the finish. if they are the natural steel color is the best option to spray paint them.  i was hoping to keep the original fasteners and restore them..  thanks for all the help

Zinc phosphate they are. ;D

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: original68 on September 30, 2013, 10:37:47 PM

Thanks much

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: J_Speegle on September 30, 2013, 11:12:13 PM

Over the phosphate they were dyed (as a safety item to catch the workers eye and attention) red.

I use machinist dye for the purpose


Your idler arm and nuts are treated and finished the same way ;)

The look of the finished part is dependent on the plating or coating applied to the piece before the dye

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/ConcoursMustang/Tools%20and%20products/REDDYE3_zps939ae7dd.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/firetrainer/media/ConcoursMustang/Tools%20and%20products/REDDYE3_zps939ae7dd.jpg.html)


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/ConcoursMustang/Tools%20and%20products/reddye_zpsed47bca6.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/firetrainer/media/ConcoursMustang/Tools%20and%20products/reddye_zpsed47bca6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: original68 on September 30, 2013, 11:54:25 PM

thanks jeff

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: preaction on October 02, 2022, 11:40:38 PM

Jeff, were the whole bolts for the steering box dyed red ? Not safety items but what should the D washer and lock washer be P+O ?

Title: Re: correct fastener finish
Post by: J_Speegle on October 05, 2022, 12:13:01 AM

Quote from: preaction on October 02, 2022, 11:40:38 PM

Jeff, were the whole bolts for the steering box dyed red ? Not safety items but what should the D washer and lock washer be P+O ?

On a 68 I've seen the complete bolt dyed - Hidden/protected area inside the frame rail with the dye still present. The washer and lock washer would just be the dark finish such as P & O  without the dye