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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1968 Mustang => Topic started by: dave6768 on December 22, 2012, 03:44:27 PM
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My dad was pretty good about going to the local Ford dealer back in the day to get all the parts for the 68. Is this by chance a correct fuel pump for a 68 J code? I'm guessing it's just an aftermarket part.
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Correct just a after market pump.
Marty
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Thanks
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(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c74/tlea/DSCN4068.jpg)
68 J code pumps where made in US Carter plant which is why they say carter instead of CARbureTOR. In 69 they went back to Carter Canada so the cast went back to CARbureTOR
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Tim, whats the date code on that pump? Fuel pump off the J-Code I just did says Carter with USA on a line below it. Date 31H7A. I'm just wondering about the different Carter logo.
Edit: I also have a 17D9A that says (Carter) not the CARbureTER logo so maybe the logo switch was later 69? what do you think?
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Tim, whats the date code on that pump? Fuel pump off the J-Code I just did says Carter with USA on a line below it. Date 31H7A. I'm just wondering about the different Carter logo.
Edit: I also have a 17D9A that says (Carter) not the CARbureTER logo so maybe the logo switch was later 69? what do you think?
Andrew, read my line under the picture. Canadian Carter plant didnt change logo to Carter till after 69. US Carter plant changed earlier. Thats why 68 pumps say Carter. Canada plant supplied in 69
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I'm a little confused Tim. I did read the line under the pic and I assumed you were saying that 69 pumps should be Canada pumps with CARbureTER logo but my 17D9A April 17, 1969 pump just says (CARTER). Are you saying that 69 pumps could have been Canada Or USA pumps.. The reason I joined in was because of my 68 J-Code pump that says (CARTER)
USA
instead of just (CARTER) and I was wondering if you knew of the reason behind the 2 slightly different logos. Maybe a dated change?
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Yes. Obviously both plants operated in 68 and 69. You also have to bear in mind my data base is mostly Shelbys so it tends to be plant specific which I would say is what the 69s are mostly. I did however do quite an exhaustive check of all 3 plants on the 68 pumps. It came about when people were taking points off for Carter pumps on 68s that didnt say CARbureTOR. I probably checked about 20-30 known original pumps and I never found one that didnt say CARTER USA. Not saying they didnt have the other one but just havent seen one yet. I believe right now there is an April 68 CARbureTOR pump on Ebay but I dont know what car/plant it came from. When we get to 69 its a whole different story. I have seen 69 pumps that say CARTER like your however the majority I've seen say CARbureTOR.
I have also talked to Fred Ballard about this in the past and he confirmed his findings are similar
For those reading: This is specifically about Carter 4567 pumps only. Other engines/pumps may use different markings for the years mentioned
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That makes a lot of sense Tim. thanks for explaining your thoughts.
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is there a difference between the 289 and 302 fuel pumps, or are they exchangeable?
I am attaching some pic of mine ('68 SJ 289) it is the original Carter pump
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For 68 and newer, they should be the same. Your pump looks original but I think its been off the car ;)
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For 68 and newer, they should be the same. Your pump looks original but I think its been off the car ;)
Why do you think that? I do not detect anything to indicate that it has been off the engine.
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Every original gasket I've seen is white
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Every original gasket I've seen is white
+1 looks like its been off for one reason or another IMHO
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Is there supplyer for the white gaskets? Or do you make them?
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Here is a Canada version of the 4567S fuel pump dated 22A8A. Are these worth saving for rebuilding? Can this small block version with the crimped diaphram be rebuilt?
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/CougarCJ/fuelpump4567S-1028_zps6ff403d3.jpg)
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Here is a Canada version of the 4567S fuel pump dated 22A8A. Are these worth saving for rebuilding? Can this small block version with the crimped diaphram be rebuilt?
Interesting casting
Yes Fred is doing the crimped lower body pumps so IMHO yes keep if- even if you don't have it rebuilt right this moment
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Every original gasket I've seen is white
I spent some time yesterday to recheck the gasket on my fuel pump, since I did not have reason to believe the pump was off the car. I took an exacto knife with a #16 blade and lightly scraped the gasket and black stuff came off it and the gasket showed as white. I then took some cleaner and wiped the gasket and it came clean to show it is indeed white. The gasket was just dirty.
So add another example to the list of original cars found white gaskets for the fuel pump.
And thanks for pointing this out to me, I would not have known it needed to be cleaned. I have not yet done a thorough cleaning on the engine since I bought the car ten years ago, but have plans on doing some cleaning later during this winter.
These are the finer points that I enjoy learning about to further validate to myself that this Mustang is indeed original and unrestored.
I included the last picture only because it captured the part number and date code (2 68) of one the fan belts. Of the belts that I have checked, they are all 2 68 dated.
Dudley
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Do we have a source for the white gaskets? Or just make them?
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They pop up on ebay frequently and are found in old gasket kits. Just use a sealer as they usually hard as a rock
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They pop up on ebay frequently and are found in old gasket kits. Just use a sealer as they usually hard as a rock
+1 and the sealer should not be visible or something in a contrasting color
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Do we have a source for the white gaskets? Or just make them?
I'll sell you mine, but the engine and the car goes with it. (just kidding)
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If the price is right (no kidding) :)