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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Mustang => Topic started by: Raytags on November 14, 2023, 07:32:36 PM

Title: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 14, 2023, 07:32:36 PM
Hi!

My friend search for the correct engine tag number sticker for a 1970 Mustang Mach1 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air no shaker.

Thank for your help.  Ray
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: jwc66k on November 14, 2023, 09:05:31 PM
Ray,
Look in this forum's library for Ford Car Parts (aka MPC - Master Parts Catalog) section 60. There a list.
Jim
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 15, 2023, 08:19:33 AM
Hi!

Thanks but this number is not listed in the ford part catalog

Thanks!  Ray
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Big Al on November 15, 2023, 11:25:14 AM
any chance you have the build sheet (or portion with eng code)?
Al
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 15, 2023, 12:51:33 PM
Hi!

Yes I search also for a build sheet

Thanks!  Ray
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: cobrajet_carl on November 15, 2023, 01:37:48 PM
That would be K202A most likely but Marti also lists K200A as a possibilty.
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: J_Speegle on November 15, 2023, 05:17:41 PM
For the 351's wasn't there a change from 200 series to the 600 series with the change from Windsor to Cleveland? The 200 series/Windsor being used during the first half or so
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: cobrajet_carl on November 15, 2023, 07:49:49 PM
Hi!

For information the K600AG is for 1970 Ford Mustang 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with air conditioning.
I'm not sure but for 351-2V Windsor 4 speed without air probably K600A. Need a copy of build sheet to confirm.

Thanks  Ray
K600AG is for a 351 Cleveland, not Windsor. All Windsors start with 2, Clevelands 6.
I have a build sheet for a 351W2V with auto that has K207A and another K203A. Also a  351W 3 speed with K200A.
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 16, 2023, 08:47:30 AM
Hi Carl

Please send me a copy of your build sheets and in exchange I sent to you mine

By email at: Raytags@vif.com

Thanks!  Ray
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: cobrajet_carl on November 17, 2023, 04:37:12 PM
For the 351's wasn't there a change from 200 series to the 600 series with the change from Windsor to Cleveland? The 200 series/Windsor being used during the first half or so
I wouldn't really call it a change as both were used for almost the entire model year. I have a build sheet for a 351W mach that was built in May of 1970. And yes, the Windsors are 200 series and the Clevelands are 600 series. And Ford built ZERO 351W-4V during the model year. Only exception were the left over 69 GT350s that were updated to 1970 VINs under the watchful eye of the FBI.



Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 17, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Hi!

For comparaison to confirm the Windsor or cleveland engine you need to compare build sheet and Marti report.
I have 2 in my hands build sheet and deluxe report and all confirm the 351-2V Windsor is a engine code H on the build sheet
and 8 for Cleveland
If any have theses build sheets for comparaison or for exchange contact me: Raytags@vif.com
Thanks!  Ray
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: J_Speegle on November 17, 2023, 10:53:01 PM
For comparaison to confirm the Windsor or cleveland engine you need to compare build sheet and Marti report.
I have 2 in my hands build sheet and deluxe report and all confirm the 351-2V Windsor is a engine code 8 on the build sheet
If any have theses build sheets for comparaison or for exchange contact me: Raytags@vif.com
Thanks!  Ray

Here is one that doesn't have an "8" in B7

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-171123215056-19812465.jpeg)
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: cobrajet_carl on November 18, 2023, 01:08:39 AM
Hi!

For comparaison to confirm the Windsor or cleveland engine you need to compare build sheet and Marti report.
I have 2 in my hands build sheet and deluxe report and all confirm the 351-2V Windsor is a engine code 8 on the build sheet
If any have theses build sheets for comparaison or for exchange contact me: Raytags@vif.com
Thanks!  Ray
Engine code "8" on a build sheet indicates a Cleveland on all of my build sheets that have an 8 instead of an H. The MPC, shop manual, Marti's Tag Book, build sheets, original metal tags etc. all show 200 series for 351W and 600 series for 351C. It is not even remotely debatable.
Title: Re: Need engine tag number for a 351-2V Windsor 4 speed with out air
Post by: Raytags on November 18, 2023, 05:08:03 PM
Hi!  Everybody

Sorry is my error all 351 Windsor is a H code on the build sheet and in the serie 200 Engine tag Number
for 351-2V Cleveland is a 8 on the build sheet and in the serie 600 Engine tag number.
but for my research the engine tag number start with: K20?A

Need a copy of Build Sheet with a 351-2V Windsor with any manual transmission. Never find at this moment.

Thanks! for your help  Ray