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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Boss => Topic started by: Bossman963 on October 08, 2023, 10:53:22 PM
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1st anybody got pic of the following?
I need to know what exactly is white besides the seats, door panels, rear fiberglass extension
Do the hockey sticks, rear lower window trim, and anything else get painted/dyed white for an original car?
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Do you have an original fold down car or a non-fold down? Makes a different as to parts used and how they were finished in some areas. Also knowing which white interior or even the code would help also since deluxe interiors have a few different parts when compared to standard interiors. While we're at lit it might even help to know when and where the car was built just in case there are differences between production periods and even plants.
Using the search feature I found an earlier thread discussing 70 white interior rear panels and their finishes. I used the words "70 White Interior" Also put my screen name in for user to limit the first search area to find threads
https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23867.msg149101#msg149101 (https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23867.msg149101#msg149101)
Guess you didn't check out the library for the list of parts that got painted. Taken from period paint instructions and such. If you haven't check out the Library under 1970 Mustang and look down the list to - Paint Codes, 1970 Interior & Exterior - Information and reprints of period paint codes
That is a start.
When we hear back on the rear seat question then unrestored examples can be posted. ;)
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OK here is the info needed or requested
1st of all yes it's an original fold-down seat Mustang:
a Dearborn car, built 10/31/69, white rhino/corinthian interior vinyl buckets seats.
the supplier of the upholstery was Mustang Market on the East Coast, I took a sample and had an exact match dye in 1 qt made to match that upholstery, so there are not 2 different colors that are in the car.
So here is my list and I did look at the pics on the thread you provided- in white should be door panels, headliner, seat hinges, hockey sticks, and sail panels.
Just to clarify the 1/4 fiberglass panel next to the trap door, and lower window molding are in black Can you give me the black color for those panels- metallic charcoal???
thx Mike
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Last question first since its the easiest. Any parts that were spray painted "black" would have been painted with Dark Charcoal Metallic paint. There were two different finishes used one a lower gloss for a couple of parts when compared to the other larger parts - Just to clarify the 1/4 fiberglass panel next to the trap door, and lower window molding, dash, dash pad extensions (these were a slightly lower gloss)
Will find and post some pictures from examples
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ok thx much as that's what I was think the color was
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Here are a bunch of pictures. Hope this helps you and others
Did include some non-fold down examples since they included other details and finishes useful in doing your car
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180005-194791088.jpeg)
Close up of how the back edge of the painted surface was treated on this particular Dearborn built car. Does match other 70 examples I have
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180012-194812333.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180028-194881520.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180021-194861243.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180018-194841381.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180013-19482413.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180005-194791005.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180028-194871259.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180021-19485587.jpeg)
Dearborn example from just before your cars completion date
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180016-19483852.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180530-19489168.jpeg)
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I?ll add that door speaker covers should be white if your car has them.
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Ok and does that include white interiors with a deluxe interior?
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Ok and does that include white interiors with a deluxe interior?
Since on deluxe interiors the lower part of the door panel is black carpet - no. In those cases the speaker grill matches the carpet color and is molded out of a matching plastic
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Thanks as that is what I thought
now to another question the pics provided in these emails as the 1/4 fiberglass panel ( the one that LOCKS THE FOLD DOWN) 1 PIC shows it BLACK AND 1 PIC shows it white;
which color should it be? Im thinking white
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now to another question the pics provided in these emails as the 1/4 fiberglass panel ( the one that LOCKS THE FOLD DOWN) 1 PIC shows it BLACK AND 1 PIC shows it white;
which color should it be? Im thinking white
Last two pictures in Reply #5 shows that the rear corner panels with the whole for the fold down seat lock are white
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Thanks as that is what I thought
now to another question the pics provided in these emails as the 1/4 fiberglass panel ( the one that LOCKS THE FOLD DOWN) 1 PIC shows it BLACK AND 1 PIC shows it white;
which color should it be? Im thinking white
I dont come around here much but...
On my untouched 70 Boss with white Standard interior built on 03/16/1970 the side panels that hold up the fold down seat are black.
You can see a pic in the link J Speegle originally linked in post #2 above. (it's the last picture on that thread-- to help you ID the pic, the trunk is open, which you can see through the rear window.)
FYI-- my Boss is a 2 owner car & I am the 2nd owner. I am friends with the first owner who ordered it while on tour in Vietnam. Point being, this car has a known history & changes.
The answer is... it depends on your car.
If you dont know then you can choose white or black, because both are correct on a white std interior car.
(although with ZERO research to back this up...I suspect white would be the more common color)
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thanks again as I'm going with black side panels & white as described by everyone and as pic show
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Good choice. As mentioned, I think, have only found the pieces finished as shown below except (can be expected) on some "restored" cars or someone copying a 69 ::)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-091023180016-19483852.jpeg)
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Jeff; the pics are great and show a lot from the prospective of an original "70, but I have a question - pls refer to the 8th photo (from top) which shows the quarter window. This picture shows at the quarter window latch a "cap trim / corner trim" (pt# 31490-2A, NPD). It has been my understanding that this this trim piece is a '69 part only and '70s should not have. I've also referred to the 1970 Mustang Interior Assembly Manual, pg 38., and it is not present. Can you shed some light on whether this trim is correct for 70's also? My Dearborn, Aug, 69, '70 Mach, DOES NOT have but I cant claim it as "original" or unmolested.
Thanks in advance.
Al
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No corner plastic trim on 70 thats why side panel on 70 is cut out so longer 70 windlace goes down in the wheelhouse area and 69 stops on top. Note tan seat belts on white interior photo have seen many originals but guys put black seat belts in 7o white int. cars. and the 70 manual calls that out.
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Thanks Ed - Marcus Anghel has a "Factoid" on this subject (Differences in 69/70 Interior Quarter Panels) found it after the post.
Not sure I understand the Black seatbelt comment? 70 Manual calls out what? NO Black seatbelts in white interior 70's?
Thanks
Al