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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: C5ZZKGT on February 10, 2011, 10:21:15 AM
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Would anyone have a picture or 2 of the correct heater hose routing on a July (or close)(Dearborn) '65 K code? I am seeing several variations.....I know the A & C codes are different because 1 runs through a bracket on the carb for the choke cap. also looking for pics in the area of the strap that holds the hoses. Thanks!
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I am active over on the Hipo forum as well and Charles has been kind enough to send me some pictures of a few installations that will help me correctly route my hoses-(both through the strap that is attached to the export brace) my observations have been that the engines were originally dropped into the cars on the line "fully dressed" with ignition wires, alternator, coil, ect, and evedentally the heater hoses were installed into the cars prior, so they WERE on top of the plug wires.........I know the reproduction heater hoses come in 8' lengths but not having measured mine I know that each hose is a different length-you don't just cut the hose in half and use 4' for each-the one that goes to the water pump IS longer....anyone know THE CORRECT measurement?
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The Assembly manual shows different then what you are describing from jim osborne
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Sometimes the MPC gives the length for hoses, will check the 65 and 66 versions when I get home later.
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I found this pic on my computer. Not sure where I got it from, but I think it is correct. I'm sure someone will know where it came from or if it is correct:
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/Mustang%20Reference%20Pics/Hoserouting.jpg)
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Looks right except the intake hose usually goes to the carb choke on a 289.
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Thanks guys for the info and diagram. Mine is a Hipo 289 so mine will need to be routed just a bit differently.
I think I can figure out a more correct length/routing from what I have, pictures that Charles sent, and this diagram.
Charles-I'd appreciate what ever you have to offer in the way of measurements though.
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For K codes there was (if I recall correctly) a change in the routing of the heater hoses - to correct an issue so there would have been an early and a late routing
Will have to see if I have the TSB handy
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Wow! Didn't know that, Thanks Jeff!
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Wow! Didn't know that, Thanks Jeff!
Sorry messed up - looked for the TSB article and it turned out it was the routing of the starter cable not heater hoses :(
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OK, Thanks Jeff!! So I am correct in routing my heater hoses ON TOP of the plug wires, BOTH through the strap that is attached to the export brace, coil sitting straight up vertical, water pump hose being slightly "pinched" by the coil.
Can I tack on anouther much talked about question about hoses?: HOW should the upper radiator hose clamp be positioned? mine is presently installed with the screw/tower positioned straight up....I have seen many turned about 1/4 towards the battery.......
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Can I tack on anouther much talked about question about hoses?: HOW should the upper radiator hose clamp be positioned? mine is presently installed with the screw/tower positioned straight up....I have seen many turned about 1/4 towards the battery.......
Since this a result of a specific worker lets try - when and where was your car built? In that way we can look at cars from then (may not get cars from the same worker but we have few other options).
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Jeff, July 1965 at Dearborn.
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Jeff, July 1965 at Dearborn.
Looks like we lucked out. From one of Mike Murry's original cars built just before the period (close as I can get) your car was built
Hope it helps
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/65%20Mustangs/5F07C780692Hoseclampupperorientation.jpg)
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Thanks Jeff!! I really appreciate your time and efforts!!
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both heater hoses thru the strap is new to me never seen one like that nor have I ever seen both holes ever taped on the shock tower brace. the only hole I have ever seen with screw threads in it is the one closest to the shock tower
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Both heater hoses through the strap on a K code would be the norm. San Jose cars have been found with 2 screws.
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I have taken a close look at my 2 holes on my rh export brace and the 1 closest to the shock tower apears to be the only one that has ever been used....the rear one looks like it was either drilled or punched and never used-this is a July '65 Dearborn K code.
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I have a 65 GT. In the routing diagram (attached) you'll see the heater hoses are connected together in two different places. Are these clamps? Zip ties? Any help is appreciated.
Thank you.
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Not sure which engine you have or where your car was assembled but guess you missed the discussion/thread on the subject. Will merge this post with that thread ;)
Routing would differ depending on which of the two engines your car originally had
Found it using the words "heater hose routing" in the search feature though other word combinations would likely work also
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Thank you...
289, 4V, A Code, build date 5/17/65, SJ. Sorry that I wasn't clear on that.
I had already researched the post you directed my inquiry to and also searched elsewhere for an answer before posting.
There is no discussion about the type/nature of the specific connection (clamp or otherwise) which attaches the hoses together as they route. Hopefully, someone can provide some information.
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with .heic i cannot open your pics. can you convert to something else?
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with .heic i cannot open your pics. can you convert to something else?
Sam3e drawing as in reply #4
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Thank you...
289, 4V, A Code, build date 5/17/65, SJ. Sorry that I wasn't clear on that.
I had already researched the post you directed my inquiry to and also searched elsewhere for an answer before posting.
There is no discussion about the type/nature of the specific connection (clamp or otherwise) which attaches the hoses together as they route. Hopefully, someone can provide some information.
Just keeping related discussions together
Don't believe you will find examples of clamps or otherwise (other than the strap to the shock tower support mentioned) holding the hoses together for your car and application. In another discussion of 66 San Jose hoses we found that on some applications the hoses were entwined with one another. Those drawings were generic drawings from likely the shop manual rather than a reflection of how our cars were built
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with .heic i cannot open your pics. can you convert to something else?
Try this -
https://www.howtogeek.com/345504/how-to-open-heic-files-on-windows-or-convert-them-to-jpeg/
Jim