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Title: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 67gta289 on January 15, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
I have a few known 1967 basic part number 18471, chamber assy - heater air plenum.  Specifically part# C7ZZ‑18471‑A.  It is shown in the first picture on the left hand side.

To the right of it is a part I picked up in a larger batch at a swap meet, along with other 1968 stuff. 

As you can see, the other part is:

1. Wider and taller
2. There are ears that stick out where the air is discharged

Other than that it is similar in material, weight, and construction.

Was there a change in 68 to this style, or is this from a Fairlane, Torino, or something else?

The 1975 version does not even list any 67-68 component available, it must have been dropped from service.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: J_Speegle on January 15, 2020, 08:39:36 PM
Larger - one on right appears its likely from a different application (Modified - Marty's post below does point out the picture/example below is from a non-console car) 

Picture of a 68 AC application below - Source 8R1267xx Nice original car shown in the Unrestored picture section  (Jan? 68 San Jose C code bench seat coupe....) one or two additional angles there

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-150120193900.jpeg)
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: ruppstang on January 15, 2020, 08:48:09 PM
I have always thought one was for a AC car with console and the other was for a AC car with out console.
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: J_Speegle on January 15, 2020, 10:07:53 PM
I have always thought one was for a AC car with console and the other was for a AC car with out console.


Should have kept looking. Had to go back to my 67 pictures to find a clear (with the console out of the way) picture of a  67 AC with console car to find an example. As always - no one is smarter than all of us together :) Corrected/altered my post above

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-150120215043.jpeg)
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: J_Speegle on January 15, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
The 1975 version does not even list any 67-68 component available, it must have been dropped from service.

My April 68 version shows the same info as the version you posted.

- Cardboard plenum for 65 to date of printing for non-AC
- For factory AC a single number C7ZZ-18471-A

No notation of being two versions for AC cars
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: krelboyne on January 15, 2020, 10:39:49 PM
Yes, heater floor vent with air conditioning. With and without console.
They both should have a metal mounting tab.

The supplier of the reproductions has them mis-marked. With console is the small one, and the wide winged one is designated for without console. Wrong.
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: krelboyne on January 15, 2020, 10:58:02 PM
My April 68 version shows the same info as the version you posted.

- Cardboard plenum for 65 to date of printing for non-AC
- For factory AC a single number C7ZZ-18471-A

No notation of being two versions for AC cars

Jeff, the air conditioning version is called a 'Register Assembly' and falls under part number C7ZZ-18C306-A. My MPC only mentions that it is for all "except with console".
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 67gta289 on January 16, 2020, 06:36:06 AM
Fantastic.  Thanks for all the help!
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 196667Bob on January 16, 2020, 11:30:42 AM
Jeff, the air conditioning version is called a 'Register Assembly' and falls under part number C7ZZ-18C306-A. My MPC only mentions that it is for all "except with console".

Once again, we see the problems with using an MPC far removed from the actual year in question. In this case, Scott's comment is from the 1965-72 MPC, printed in 1975. Both the 1967 Only, and the 1960-68 MPC's show both registers, with and without consoles (C7ZZ-18C306-B and C7ZZ-18C306-A respectively).

While the 1967 Only is not easy to come by, the 1960-68 MPC is readily available in digital format. Scott (and others), you really need to add this to your Library.

Bob
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: krelboyne on January 16, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
Once again, we see the problems with using an MPC far removed from the actual year in question. In this case, Scott's comment is from the 1965-72 MPC, printed in 1975. Both the 1967 Only, and the 1960-68 MPC's show both registers, with and without consoles (C7ZZ-18C306-B and C7ZZ-18C306-A respectively).

While the 1967 Only is not easy to come by, the 1960-68 MPC is readily available in digital format. Scott (and others), you really need to add this to your Library.

Bob

So, no credit for finding the correct part number, with reference? Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 196667Bob on January 16, 2020, 12:11:23 PM
Scott : Sorry ; you should absolutely get credit for that. Good work (even if you did use an MPC that was "far, far away" -lol).

Bob
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 16, 2020, 12:13:50 PM
So, no credit for finding the correct part number, with reference? Tough crowd.

Check your email for your daily allowance of "attaboys".

If, by chance, you already exceeded your daily allowance. you may not find any there so...

ATTABOY!
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: jwc66k on January 16, 2020, 12:42:01 PM
So, no credit for finding the correct part number, with reference? Tough crowd.
Part numbers are your friend (or should be). Even apples (4016) have a part number at your local supermarket (OK, PLU = Product Look Up).
Jim
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 196667Bob on January 16, 2020, 01:20:10 PM
I should have attached the following listings from the MPC's before, but failed to. While the single year MPC's are great for early Part Numbers that may have been replaced early in the Model Year, they typically are "short" on Illustrations. This is the case here ; while there is a great Illustration showing a breakdown of all of the 67 Mustang Heater parts in the 1967 Only MPC, there is nothing on the 67 Mustang Interior/in dash parts for the Selectaire. The 1960-68 MPC has a great Illustration of that, which appears to have been carried over into the 1965-72 MPC, as Ford did with many, many of the other Illustrations.

Bob
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: J_Speegle on January 16, 2020, 02:34:27 PM
Once again, we see the problems with using an MPC far removed from the actual year in question. In this case, Scott's comment is from the 1965-72 MPC, printed in 1975. Both the 1967 Only, and the 1960-68 MPC's show both registers, with and without consoles (C7ZZ-18C306-B and C7ZZ-18C306-A respectively).


Interesting that the pages printed two months (April 68) prior, the MPC didn't show the same information. Showed only one as mentioned above.
Title: Re: Help ID air conditioning system plenum
Post by: 196667Bob on January 16, 2020, 04:19:50 PM
Jeff : The page I noted, page 15 from June 1968, was originally added by Change No. 27 in August of 1967. Something was revised on this page in December of 1968 by Change No. 29, and finally in June of 1968 by Change No. 33. The page 15 that you have probably shows either Change No. 32 or Change No. 29, depending on how Ford decided to reference Changes when none were made on a specific page. In either case, based on what you have noted, the addition of the C7ZZ-18C306-B occurred between April and June of 1968. Of course this doesn't mean that this part wasn't used by the Factory prior to that, just that it wasn't available as a Service Part until then.

Bob