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Title: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: ls4wires on November 13, 2019, 04:02:37 PM
I'm told this forum is for both Mustangs and Cougars. I have a 67 Cougar. Factory air. There is an indicator light connected to a switch on the emergency brake. But the lens or bezel is missing. Does anyone know what this looks like, or have a picture of it? Any sources for it?
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: jwc66k on November 13, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
Welcome to the forum.
Try West Coast Cougars https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/
I've not used them, but they seem to have a good reputation.
Jim
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 67gtasanjose on November 13, 2019, 04:45:31 PM
Basic round red lens as I recall.
Yep, memory serves for a change...
Got the image from WCCC as already suggested but they show to be out. Give them a call.
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 196667Bob on November 13, 2019, 07:15:47 PM
If the Cougar Warning Light is the same as the Mustang, it would be as shown in the attached pictures.

Bob
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 67gta289 on November 13, 2019, 07:39:00 PM
I found this in the Mercury MPC.  The C7ZZ was not listed, but probably most correct for the 67.

Was this a stand alone lamp, not part of the more comprehensive convenience control option?
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 67gta289 on November 13, 2019, 07:46:41 PM
Also I found the individual components of the C7ZZ kit
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: jwc66k on November 13, 2019, 07:56:45 PM
Was this a stand alone lamp, not part of the more comprehensive convenience control option?
There were two uses, a dash mounted courtesy lamp panel, all indicators were horizontal, and a console mounted version, two on each side of the housing. As an individual lamp, I don't know. I didn't see a wiring diagram for one, but a dealer would/could do anything.
Jim
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 67gtasanjose on November 14, 2019, 06:15:04 AM


I'm told this forum is for both Mustangs and Cougars. I have a 67 Cougar. Factory air. There is an indicator light connected to a switch on the emergency brake. But the lens or bezel is missing. Does anyone know what this looks like, or have a picture of it? Any sources for it?

There were two uses, a dash mounted courtesy lamp panel, all indicators were horizontal, and a console mounted version, two on each side of the housing. As an individual lamp, I don't know. I didn't see a wiring diagram for one, but a dealer would/could do anything.
Jim

Regarding JUST THE LAMP, like the Mustang, a 67 Cougar could be found with a dash-mounted (at an angle) lamp like the one I pictured earlier (and again here) OR A CONSOLE-MOUNTED VERSION if the EARLY-67 Cougar had the Convenience Group. LATER IN 67,  an XR7 would have the upper console with map lights and it would be a standard option on an XR7. Scott or Royce can chime in on these details to confirm or add to as needed.

Since the O.P. asks about the lens or bezel "connected to a switch on the emergency brake", I would assume he is asking about the "kit" version, not the console-mounted Convenience Group or XR7 vesion. Having factory AC has nothing to do with this option on Cougars (unlike a Mustang where having factory AC changes the location of the Convenience Group location).
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 196667Bob on November 14, 2019, 12:13:26 PM
The C7ZZ-15A852-A Parking Brake Warning Light that I pictured was a Ford, "stand alone" Accessory. It appears in both the 1967 Only MPC, as well as in the 1960-68 MPC (copy attached. It is also shown in the November 1966 and the May 1967 Ford List Prices books for a whole $3.70.

I have also attached a copy of the Instruction Sheet that came with it (note that the IS number is different than that noted in the MPC's).

Bob
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: krelboyne on November 14, 2019, 01:20:10 PM
There is a 1967 and a 1968 version of the option. 1967 has a ring terminal off of the fuse to the ignition switch. 1968 has a yellow bullet plug, that goes to the 3 way accessory plug. We are unable to maintain a supply of switches to keep this item is stock. We are planning to offer segments of the light assembly for sale. Below is a picture of the two versions. This was not a real common option for a Cougar, it was available on the Standard
 (non XR7) model Cougar. Am not sure what the option was called to get this item outside of the convenience group.
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 196667Bob on November 14, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Scott : Interesting. When you note "Option" are you referring to "Factory Option", or are you including "Dealer Option" ? To avoid confusion, I usually try to avoid using "option" to include "Dealer Option" as a Dealer Option is just an Accessory Installed by the Dealer. In which case, it could be installed on any Model, including the XR-7's. Of course if all XR-7's came with the Safety Convenience Package (I am not that familiar with Cougars to know that), then it would be kind of superfluous.

It is interesting that the light assemblies are shown as different on 67's and 68's (C7ZZ- and C8WB-), as the lens'; and sockets appear to be identical ; I guess just because of the ring end versus the bullet connector end, especially since the 1967 description notes it as "Lamp and Wiring" ?

Thanks for sharing this.

Bob
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: pellets4fuel on June 24, 2020, 01:02:47 PM
I picked up one of these kits for my 67 Cougar.  I'm debating if I want to drill a hole in my dash to install it. :-\ 
Trying to make out and be clear of the dimensions it gives for mounting, and understand the two options. 
Appears one mounting position for light is if you have speed control.  The other talks about 'bulb out' location?
Any clarity?
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: 196667Bob on June 24, 2020, 01:21:52 PM
I see your problem. I'll have to check my original Instruction Sheet and see if it is a little more clear, and get back to you.

Bob
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: jwc66k on June 24, 2020, 03:49:29 PM
I'm debating if I want to drill a hole in my dash to install it. :-\ 
I'm of the "school" that follows the premise to make no permanent non-stock modifications to my car. I would make a bracket and hang the light under the dash using an existing screw/bolt or an existing hole with a new screw/bolt.
Jim
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: pellets4fuel on June 24, 2020, 10:10:48 PM
I'm thinking that route also.  Mounting like the square light for seat belts on some Mustangs.  Looks like that was placed under the dash just to the left of where the console would mount up?
David
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: pellets4fuel on June 24, 2020, 10:45:39 PM
I was just out testing the light and switch I got for this.  The light seems to have a blinking bulb in it.  Is that the correct bulb?  Is it suppose to blink to warn you your parking brake is on, or was it just a steady light?  I really think I'm going to locate or make a bracket to mount it like the seat belt add on light on a Mustang.
Title: Re: emergency brake indicator light
Post by: jwc66k on June 25, 2020, 12:12:05 AM
Look inside the bulb. A flashing bulb has a bimetallic strip that heats and cools to give the flash when power is applied. Also, read the bulb number on the base. You may need that later.
Jim