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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: J_Speegle on September 03, 2019, 06:41:05 PM
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Just another suggested running change survey. So show us what you've found and documented. Still starting out with San Jose only examples.
This time its the routing of the brake lines from the distribution block to the center of the firewall. Two routes have been documented.
One with both lines routed above the steering column (at firewall) location as shown below.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-030919180743.jpeg)
The second with both lines routed below the steering column location as shown below. Yes there is a non-factory wire existing the hole for the throttle for some reason ::)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-030919174022.jpeg)
Have some examples samples but can always use more - your may be in the change over gap that always seems to come up. Real build/finish dates are important and at least a partial (for spread sheet ordering) is important.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++12/26/2019 Update +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Using the information submitted and my data base its pretty clear IMHO. I tracked which examples appeared to have been altered, restored, modified or upgraded (new brake lines) ignored them if they were orphans - single examples months from other similar findings. Have a handful of cars built just before April 28th that were unrestored with the over the steering column routing and about a half a dozen completed on May 1st with the under the steering column routing. Have a couple of under style around the same time period but don't have real dates for those. Have one example with a VIN that might be from between those two dates or no and since I don't have a real date on that example it was not considered but think only a four day window is pretty good given the amount of time that has past.
The routing is not IMHO related to any other feature or change. Findings were consistent with 6 cylinders as they were with all V8's. Solid or "rag joint" column configurations did not change the pattern either. Hope this helps others
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/15/6-210421160954.jpeg)
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I wonder if it is related to the rag joint box vs long shaft box given the examples or maybe just a coincidence. The box type may be relevant in reporting and then again maybe not but I don't think it hurts to include that info also.
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I wonder if it is related to the rag joint box vs long shaft box given the examples or maybe just a coincidence. The box type may be relevant in reporting and then again maybe not but I don't think it hurts to include that info also.
No they don't line up that way for small blocks and 6 cylinders. If so then the big blocks and tilt cars would be found with one routing and others a different routing. Will change the picture so that we have two solid examples since it might be a distraction.
The whole rag joint/solid thing is a different discussion and may not turn out as expected/thought.
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My signature car (power disc) is over.
My parts car -- 7R01C189340 door tag 06C (drum, no power) is over as well.
The MPC usually states February as the brake [sic] point, but that's not right.
Here is a pic of the parts car.
Corrected VIN in blue above.
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My signature car (power disc) is over.
My parts car -- 7R01C189310 door tag 06C (drum, no power) is over as well.
The MPC usually states February as the brake [sic] point, but that's not right.
Thanks Bill as always and for your other efforts supporting the site ;)
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Trying to pay it back for all the help I get here!
I went through my original pics prior to teardown and found this very detailed pic of the signature car. The shiny item on the firewall is where underdash a/c was added while it resided in Alabama.
This was a previous owner's temporary plug after they removed the a/c.
Any and all holes for the a/c have since been properly metal filled.
Both this car and the parts car are really late for over-steering brake lines and I'll be interested to see any cars later than March 6.
Add a better pic on edit.
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Here is our SJ 11-04-66 C code tilt column with over the top brake lines.
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signature car; over the top
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7R02A143684 built 12/5/66 is over.
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Hello,
My car is also over the top.
Kind regards,
Jeroen
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My signature car has the brake lines routed over the steering column...
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Late 67, #217438, lines go under. V8, ac, auto.
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Does the routing have anything to do with the location of the disc brake proportioning valve at the rear axle for disc brake cars?
Jim
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Does the routing have anything to do with the location of the disc brake proportioning valve at the rear axle for disc brake cars?
Jim
No = pattern is found on even 6 cylinders
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19 June SJ signature car, PS, Drum Brakes: both lines under
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Original post updated with my findings. When we compare doing surveys for 67 features with 65-66 its a great help that we can use real build dates rather than just VIN's. Sure seems to decrease the possible change over period allot