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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Processes, Products & Techniques => Topic started by: Bossman963 on August 30, 2018, 12:41:47 PM
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I was wondering what everyone is using or who does or where can you get that cloth type covering for the wires in trunk area- mine are toast ???
I was thinking of using hockey stick tape as have done in the past- any info would be helpful
thx Mike
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Here is one option:
http://www.homeprofasteners.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=41_118_186
As you can imagine the hard part is removing and then replacing terminals as the won't fit through the harness.
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I was wondering what everyone is using or who does or where can you get that cloth type covering for the wires in trunk area- mine are toast ???
I was thinking of using hockey stick tape as have done in the past- any info would be helpful
thx Mike
Some opt for the repro wiring which comes with the weave covering already on it as new ,however the repros come as a dark black weave where the original was more of gray with other colors mixed in. There are companies that will reweave the covering over your existing wiring. You have to request the color needed from the re weave companies. There was a forum member that was very happy with his results. You can do a search on the site .
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Here is one option:
http://www.homeprofasteners.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=41_118_186
As you can imagine the hard part is removing and then replacing terminals as the won't fit through the harness.
Bill, that would work for theportion on the trunk light or license plate light but not the taillight harness weave material.
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thx guys for info and will search it out
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I bought a few samples to see if I could use it for the hobbyist version of refurbishing tail harnesses, and quickly learned (1) is isn't close to concours and (2) you can't push any connectors through it. After a short examination, I threw it into a cardboard box of miscellaneous stuff, 'cause I hate to throw anything out. That was 8 years ago...never been touched since.
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well midlife if that what you have done and u refurbish the wires-then I guess I will use my son's hockey stick tape
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well midlife if that what you have done and u refurbish the wires-then I guess I will use my son's hockey stick tape
Did you look for the thread on where you can send it out? The "hockey stick tape" is such an "old school" sort of an answer...but it is your choice.
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no, I didn't look for the thread to send out the wiring- would that be in the resto discussion section?
Yes hockey tape is old school but the car is also old school -LOL
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Yes hockey tape is old school -
Properly referred to as "friction tape". That's old school. Yes, we did use friction tape on our hockey sticks. Yes, we all carried a roll. Yes, we only replaced it when it got too bloody. (You teenagers are all alike.)
Jim
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Rhode Island Wiring will re-assemble your tail-light harness with the correct fabric and colors, but expect to pay north of $100.
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Bill, that would work for theportion on the trunk light or license plate light but not the taillight harness weave material.
Good to know. Thanks Bob.
Rhode Island Wiring will re-assemble your tail-light harness with the correct fabric and colors, but expect to pay north of $100.
That too is good to know. I also need my rear harness redone.
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Sorry about the previous post concerning wire loom weave. I didn't inspect the bookmarked link before posting.
However, I did find an outfit that makes some wire harnesses I've never seen as being available.
For instance instrument wire harness for 67 tach and non-tach cars. Same with the forward engine/light harness for tach and non-tach cars.
What interested me was their listing of the rear harness for 67 Shelby that stops right where the Shelby light pigtail begins:
https://www.lectriclimited.com/rear-body-harness-107140
And yes, they also sell the regular production harness for 67s.
I'm contacting them to see if they have a closeup of the rear harness.
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Sorry about the previous post concerning wire loom weave. I didn't inspect the bookmarked link before posting.
However, I did find an outfit that makes some wire harnesses I've never seen as being available.
For instance instrument wire harness for 67 tach and non-tach cars. Same with the forward engine/light harness for tach and non-tach cars.
What interested me was their listing of the rear harness for 67 Shelby that stops right where the Shelby light pigtail begins:
https://www.lectriclimited.com/rear-body-harness-107140
And yes, they also sell the regular production harness for 67s.
I'm contacting them to see if they have a closeup of the rear harness.
FYI the Shelby taillight harness pigtail that is reproduced is not like original in that the green and black wire gauge is too thin compared to original on the wires coming out of the bulb plug. You are better off IMHO sourcing Cougar taillight harness's and making it up yourself . Remember that both sides of the Shelby harness use the Green and black wires and not just one side like the Cougar. That means you need two separate Cougar taillight harness's to make one Shelby harness set .
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When dealing with Shelbys it's hard to separate where the Ford part starts and the Shelby part begins. I wasn't too clear on that so I'll add to the discussion.
For those not aware, in 67 Shelby workers lopped off the Ford plugins for the Ford tail lights and added Cougar sections for the 3 bulbs in each Cougar light assembly.
So the front half of a complete "Shelby rear harness" is all Ford (including the braiding) and the rear portions are Shelby.
The vendor I mentioned, Lectric Limited, offers many different harnesses for 67 Mustangs. Quite a few I have not seen offered before.
They offer a complete Mustang rear harness (with braid) and it comes with Mustang tail light plugs.
But for a bit less they offer a Ford rear harness (with braid), but they don't include the Ford Mustang tail light plugs. They end the wire without any plug. The link in my previous post is to that harness.
This last harness assumes you have a good Shelby (Cougar) end assembly at home and just wish to replace the Ford portion of the harness. Since I have a Mustang harness with frayed braid and the Shelby ends are intact, this suites my needs perfectly.
I didn't know about the reproduction Shelby harness, so for those that need both sides of the harness, pay heed to Bob's warning.
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When dealing with Shelbys it's hard to separate where the Ford part starts and the Shelby part begins. I wasn't too clear on that so I'll add to the discussion.
For those not aware, in 67 Shelby workers lopped off the Ford plugins for the Ford tail lights and added Cougar sections for the 3 bulbs in each Cougar light assembly.
So the front half of a complete "Shelby rear harness" is all Ford (including the braiding) and the rear portions are Shelby.
The vendor I mentioned, Lectric Limited, offers many different harnesses for 67 Mustangs. Quite a few I have not seen offered before.
They offer a complete Mustang rear harness (with braid) and it comes with Mustang tail light plugs.
But for a bit less they offer a Ford rear harness (with braid), but they don't include the Ford Mustang tail light plugs. They end the wire without any plug. The link in my previous post is to that harness.
This last harness assumes you have a good Shelby (Cougar) end assembly at home and just wish to replace the Ford portion of the harness. Since I have a Mustang harness with frayed braid and the Shelby ends are intact, this suites my needs perfectly.
I didn't know about the reproduction Shelby harness, so for those that need both sides of the harness, pay heed to Bob's warning.
Just inquire about the color of the braiding of the main tail light harness before making a decision. I would rather have my original re braided a close to original color then a non original color a repro set might have . The difference is very visible once you are aware what is correct and what is wrong. That is just me . Others my think differently.
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OK, guys again thanks and a final question as I'm going to send my trunk wiring to Rhode Island wiring.
To confirm that I have a few wiring harnesses and some have a separate grounding wire with an end that attached to the light bulb socket and the other end doesn't have 2- square 4 prong plug on it- so that a 69 wiring???
The 70 wiring should have a grounding wire built into the bulb socket and the other end has a ( that connect near the main harness near driver seat)- 4 prong connection that one red and 1 is white???
If pics are needed as can post them if that will help
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Red and white 4 pin square connectors are 1970; red and black 3 pin flat connectors are 1969's.
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thanks again for info
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Here is my 67 SJ fastback taillight harness (see car info below) weave and color.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/4249-171018190031.jpeg)
This section was hidden in the A-piller and is the best sample I have.
The light color appears to be khaki and the dark color is a very dark hunter green.
I plan on going to the box store and I will get some color panels from the paint section that most closely approximate the colors in natural light.
I'll send the color panels to Rhode Island and Narragansett Reproductions via mail along with the weave pattern.
Note that a wire re-weave/braid does not require the terminal or ends to be removed. The machine that does the weave is shaped a bit like a funnel collector with around a dozen bobbins surrounding it.
The wire gets fed into the collector as the braiding begins. Any wire or bundle that needs to exit the braid can do so by stopping the machine and pulling the wire or bundle out the side and then restarting the machine.
(http://www.riwire.com/moreabout/huge/loom.JPG)
[edit to specify taillight since this IS the trunk harness]
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well had Rhode Island wiring do the wrap on my trunk wires and they did a great job and yes as stated before it was over $100.00 but worth it