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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:39:08 PM

Title: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:39:08 PM
Going to try and do the multiple features related to the 65 trunk lid changes all in one thread. We'll see where it goes.

If you want to contribute below are the features I'm focusing on in this thread. We can expand if need be.  Date code of the trunk lid or trunk lid hinge are extra credit  :D For hinges list drivers side (DS) or passenger side (PS)

Just made up descriptive terms that relate to the different versions. Had to choose something. Will follow up with pictures of each version

1- Car identification - Something along the line of 5F09T 1234xx or 5T2595xx will work fine

2- Car condition - Restored/repainted or unrestored?

3- Trunk inner panel design - Windows or circles? (Date would help but not required)

4- Trunk lid spring - Passenger end - Points inward or outward?

5- Drivers side trunk hinge - With cage or without cage? (Date would help but not required)

6- Passenger side trunk hinge - With bushing or without bushing?

7- Passenger side trunk hinge - No arm stops, welded stops or integrated stops?

8- Trunk spring arm (End of trunk spring to passenger side trunk hinge) - Single or double?


Think that will do it for now.
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:43:59 PM
3- Trunk inner panel design - Windows or circles? (Date would help but not required)


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418174346.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
4- Trunk lid spring - Passenger end - Points inward or outward?

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418175023.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
5- Drivers side trunk hinge - With cage or without cage? (Date would help but not required)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418175601.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
6- Passenger side trunk hinge - With bushing or without bushing?

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418155150.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418155135.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 07:06:50 PM
7- Passenger side trunk hinge - No arm stops, welded stops or integrated stops?



With welded stops

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418180623.jpeg)



With integrated stops

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418180609.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
8- Trunk spring arm (End of trunk spring to passenger side trunk hinge) - Single or double (thickness)?

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-070418181158.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2018, 07:14:18 PM
And an easy to fill out form if you want to use it. You can include 65 GT350's also for this discussion ;)

1- Car id -

2- Car condition -

3- Trunk inner panel design -

4- Trunk lid spring - Passenger end -

5- Drivers side trunk hinge -

6- Passenger side trunk hinge -

7- Passenger side trunk hinge -

8- Trunk spring arm -
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: jwc66k on April 07, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Ok, all I can remember is this is an early 65 Fastback built in Detroit. The owner has "disappeared" (retired and gone East, like Michigan) so further information is not available. All I took were the three pictures.
Jim
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 08, 2018, 12:25:04 PM
1. 5R09A152xxx
2. Repainted over original paint prior to 1992. But may not have repainted in trunk
3. Windows
4. Outward
5. No cage but electrical clip. Date code of hinge 10/8/64
6. With bushing
7. Welded stops - date code of hinge 9/16/64
8. Double
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 08, 2018, 12:32:00 PM
This isn't my car Jeff but took some pics when I saw it last year.

1.  5R09A137XXX (11J build date)
2.  Repainted
3.  WIndows Date code of lid 8/11/64
4.  Inward
5.  Cage - unknown date code
6.  With Bushing
7.  I don't see stops in the picture
8.  Double
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: Bossbill on April 08, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
1- 5/18/65 5F09A728xxx
2- Car condition - Restored/Modified (trunk is stock, other than finishes)
3- Trunk inner panel design - Windows
4- Trunk lid spring - Passenger end - Outward
5- Drivers side trunk hinge - No Cage
6- Passenger side trunk hinge - No bushing.
7- Passenger side trunk hinge - Top is welded -- there is no lower and shows no signs of ever have been there.
8- Trunk spring arm - Single

Edit response to 6.
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on April 08, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
I many cases if there was a bushing installed originally in the passenger side trunk hinge the hole is still noticeably larger than the rod and the hole will still be fairly round. Trunks were rarely opened and closed enough to wear an larger or circular hole if it was designed for no bushing

Thanks all for participating. Adds to the few hundred I may have
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: Bossbill on April 08, 2018, 11:04:27 PM
I measured the rod at 0.25 and the hole at 0.280 or so.
The bushings pictured don't fit with that small of a difference!
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: DKutz on September 29, 2018, 10:33:33 PM
Discovered this today.. oct 64 FB. San Jose.
Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: NEFaurora on September 30, 2018, 12:44:09 AM

So Interesting on the different designs...

As Always....

Thanks Jeff for Posting.

This is one good thread.

:o)

Tony K.

Title: Re: 65 Fasback Trunk Lid Discussion
Post by: J_Speegle on May 07, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Just a little update sort of as I'm working on some related details

As a result of this thread and others some of the results of our findings for San Jose examples was posted in the 65 SJ Running Changes thread