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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: Ralf on March 06, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
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Hello,
Does anyone know some details about this clip?
- name/number of the clip?
- manufacturer/source?
How is this clip fixed/mounted on the metal folding (hole)?
(http://up.picr.de/32020120xn.jpg)
Thx
Ralf
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Are you questioning if your car should have this? Looks like yours is a convertible, but this pic is a fastback. Also, do you know when/where the car in the pic was built? Best to know for sure if this applies to your own car before copying details.
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The Electrical Assy Manual specifies a C3SB-14A163-A Retainer for all models.
It attaches to the wheelhouse fin over the black plastic luggage protector.
It's also the way the fuel tank sensor wire is held in place under the car.
The Manual specifies the use of a plastic shield retainer (C7ZB-14A088-A) under the car, but I've only seen the use of the C3 retainer in the wild.
Here is a straight on and 90* view.
Note in the straight on view that the top 60% or so of this side is rubber coated. The center finger is coated on both sides, to protect the wire. This example has been P/Oed, so the rubber is hard to make out.
Note that this example is out of the GT350 in that location.
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Initially, I thought it was that clip too, but when blowing up the image, it doesn't seem like it is.
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I can't make out his clip.
Both my early SJ March cars (one is a parts car, the other in my sig) have this clip here and under the car to hold the gas gauge wire.
I'll have to search the Luggage Protector thread to find more pics ...
On edit -- found a concours original that Jeff had posted in this thread:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8272.msg48204#msg48204
Please note that all three of these examples are SJ cars -- your mileage may vary.
Here is the pic including the retainer:
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/7/6-110817162620-79752383.jpeg)
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I can't make out his clip.
Both my early SJ March cars (one is a parts car, the other in my sig) have this clip here and under the car to hold the gas gauge wire.
I'll have to search the Luggage Protector thread to find more pics ...
On edit -- found a concours original that Jeff had posted in this thread:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8272.msg48204#msg48204
Please note that all three of these examples are SJ cars -- your mileage may vary.
Here is the pic including the retainer:
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/7/6-110817162620-79752383.jpeg)
Your picture shows the most typical version that I have seen in observations of 67 SJ fastback trunks.
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My NOV 66 Shelby has a different clip than this. It is plastic with a spring steel interior.
-Keith
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Please snap a picture. Love to see it!
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Will do! I can't find the thread for the 4 speed back up lamp switch part number tag.
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Here is the clip.
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Keith, that is the clip I was looking for. Thank you.
Is there any source available to get this clip?
Also thx to the others supporting me on this issue.
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I'm a bit confused, because I have asked a question and used a pic, which is not related to my car. :o ;D
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I'm a bit confused, because I have asked a question and used a pic, which is not related to my car. :o ;D
EXACTLY true! I think you should investigate this further before buying one, there looks like there could be different ones used here or there at different assembly plants or dates...better to look at unrestored examples on both sides of your build date & location IMHO.
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EXACTLY true! I think you should investigate this further before buying one, there looks like there could be different ones used here or there at different assembly plants or dates...better to look at unrestored examples on both sides of your build date & location IMHO.
To avoid to end up in a total confusion.
Again, this clip is not for my car! I know my car, and I know that I have a convertible. :D
I'm searching this for a friend of mine, who has a 67 SJ FB.
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Interesting thread.
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To avoid to end up in a total confusion.
I'm searching this for a friend of mine, who has a 67 SJ FB.
OK, when was it built?
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OK, when was it built?
March, 67
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Keith, that is the clip I was looking for. Thank you.
I'm really confused.
Your friend's car is a SJ Mar 67 built car. I suspect somewhere in 7R02x185xxx-195xxx range
A concours example of a that car built in date proximity to this car was shown with the all metal clip.
I have two examples also in this range with all metal clips.
Bob thinks this clip was "typical".
Yet you want to use a clip that was used 4 months earlier?
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OK, when was it built?
1967 GT 500. 11/66 build.
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Does anyone know some details about this clip?
- name/number of the clip?
- manufacturer/source?
Sorry don't typically look up part numbers since I don't do searches for parts based on the numbers but rather look. Sure others can figure that out. Source is typically just out of a donor car. You can find them used up into the early 70's on many different Ford products for many different purposes
Here is an example of another location I found one on 67 San Jose coupe
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070318161911.jpeg)
Its just one of two that was used at San Jose during 67 production
How is this clip fixed/mounted on the metal folding (hole)?
One end of the "S" sort of shape goes over the wheel house pinch weld and luggage stripe and the other is used to hold the wire in place
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Ralf,
AMK is reproducing this clip. I MAY have a spare. I will look if you're interested.
-Keith
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I can't make out his clip.
Both my early SJ March cars (one is a parts car, the other in my sig) have this clip here and under the car to hold the gas gauge wire.
Maybe part of the confusion - different results is that your comparing cars from different production periods and for details it can be like comparing details from other years or even plants and expecting to get the same results or findings
Here are some examples from Nov- Jan 67 built at San Jose. Found dozens of examples of these clips being used during this period rather than the later retainers. Change over is in the 158xx-162xxx VIN range. Of course it would be a soft range since we know that cars were not built in sequential order and we don't know the real build dates of all the cars in the survey
Ignore the arrow - picture was originally uploaded for another discussion about the fuel wire retaining tape locations
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-200516153735-57141135.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070318160433.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070318160542.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070318160612.jpeg)
Clip style IMHO has nothing to do with body type in my review
You will likely find more with the rubber covered metal clips on cars at show since they are easy to purchase and find - rather than all being found with that clip prior to restoration
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Maybe part of the confusion - different results is that your comparing cars from different production periods and for details it can be like comparing details from other years or even plants and expecting to get the same results or findings
But I'm not comparing different build dates!
The OP stated (later) that the car in question was a Mar 67 car. After that I stated I was confused since we now 3 cars (one of them from your library) all built really close to his build date with the later clip.
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But I'm not comparing different build dates!......
Noticed that your response in reply #4 was about March cars (original post only had reference to the Nov date) and the OP never provided the March 67 date until 8 posts (post #12) after you introduced your findings in reply #4
Will agree that once the conversation got around to the Mar 67 period the rubber dipped steel style would be the norm.
All worked out in the end but all of this is a reminder of why it can be beneficial early in the thread (first post hopefully) to identify when and where the car in question was assembled
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"...but all of this is a reminder of why it can be beneficial early in the thread (first post hopefully) to identify when and where the car in question was assembled"
Are you questioning if your car should have this? Looks like yours is a convertible, but this pic is a fastback. Also, do you know when/where the car in the pic was built? Best to know for sure if this applies to your own car before copying details.
BINGO! 2nd post nailed it first! O.P. is known to have a 11/66 built SJ 'vert, easy to assume it was a request for his car. Wasn't till the bottom of the first page he made it clear the request was for a later build...
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Ralf,
AMK is reproducing this clip. I MAY have a spare. I will look if you're interested.
-Keith
Would be nice, Keith.
Thank you.
Ralf
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By the second post it was clear we weren't dealing with the OPs convertible as the picture was clearly of a fastback.
I was only showing what a Mar 67 fastback would have. I tried to state that with my last line of "this example is out of the GT350 [sig states Mar, 67] in that location."
I now see that an inference can be made that I was somehow replying to a Nov. car. I was not, but I suppose one could read it that way.
I just happened to have these on the bench after a phosphate cleaning next to my shop computer so I thought a picture of this obsolete clip would be useful.
I'll try and be clearer with my posts.