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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: socalgt on May 26, 2015, 05:06:38 PM

Title: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: socalgt on May 26, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
Should the upper(long)mounting stud for the power steering pump have enough threads  showing to allow the nut to tighten to the bracket, or should it pivot on the stud even with the nut tightened as far as it will go?

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Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: 67gtasanjose on May 26, 2015, 06:00:44 PM
It should tighten all the way down, not loose enough to pivot.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: socalgt on May 26, 2015, 11:11:23 PM
Thanks for the reply...I'll make sure the stud extends past the p.s. pump bracket properly for the nut to tighten against it.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: roddster on May 27, 2015, 01:14:36 AM
  There should be a couple of threads showing past the end of the nut.  It is a special  nut.  And yes, it is a close fit.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: J_Speegle on May 27, 2015, 05:45:04 AM
Couple of original examples - sorry can't be more specific since you didn't to include where your car was built or with which engine :(

Might want to add the info to your signature ;)


Basic locking (some call it aircraft) style nut with no washer which allows it to stay in place. IMHO  snug not really tight as it will go. I break too many bolts that way  ::)

7R01C1323xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/3/6-270515034221.jpeg)



7R01C1680xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/3/6-270515034237.jpeg)


Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 27, 2015, 12:14:05 PM
The stud has a long threaded end and a shorter threaded end . I believe the design was so the shorter end was" supposed" to go into the block side and bottom out and stop at the end of the shorter thread . With that said I have seen even amounts of the different possible installations to suggest they were installed every which way from my observations.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: socalgt on May 27, 2015, 10:32:36 PM
That's the problem I had....previous owner installed the stud with the longer threaded end....not leaving enough room on the other end of the stud for the adjusting bracket....had to remove the stud and turn it around.  It was quite a job removing it...finally had to weld a nut on(several times)to get the stud out.

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Title: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: socalgt on May 30, 2015, 12:07:23 AM
Is the thin bracket that attaches to the rear of the pump( between the pressure hose and the back of the pump) actually a separate piece that can be purchased?
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2015, 12:12:42 AM
Its a hose locator or others call it a clocking bracket.

Yes it can be purchased if you find someone with a used one. Make sure it fits your year and application. Allot of different ones were made

Might try posting your questions under this section since they almost never seem to "fit" where you placing them ;)
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 30, 2015, 12:37:43 AM
Is the thin bracket that attaches to the rear of the pump( between the pressure hose and the back of the pump) actually a separate piece that can be purchased?
I believe the style you show in the picture is not for 67 but 68 or 69. The 67 style was a strip of reinforcement metal minus the locating aspect from the examples I have observed.
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2015, 12:49:59 AM
To support and illustrate what Bob was referring to I offer the following pictures of an 67 C code original example


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/3/6-290515224831.jpeg)


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/3/6-290515224816.jpeg)
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: socalgt on May 30, 2015, 01:15:12 AM
I see what you mean...I've only seen the '68 locating bracket available at vendors so far.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2015, 11:09:12 PM
Merged the two topics since they are so closely related  :D
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: mhubert89 on June 05, 2015, 11:11:08 PM
Its a hose locator or others call it a clocking bracket.

Yes it can be purchased if you find someone with a used one. Make sure it fits your year and application. Allot of different ones were made

Might try posting your questions under this section since they almost never seem to "fit" where you placing them ;)

can we still buy this or only if you can find a old one original ? and wich one will be the correct one for my 68 ?
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on June 05, 2015, 11:17:50 PM
can we still buy this or only if you can find a old one original ? and wich one will be the correct one for my 68 ?

If your asking if the 68 up locator brackets are being reproduced for a small block I don't believe so. Because of that your left with originals which should number in the tens of thousands out there but you'll need to know what your specific application looks like. They do come up for sale on Ebay from time to time
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: mhubert89 on June 05, 2015, 11:21:54 PM
If your asking if the 68 up locator brackets are being reproduced for a small block I don't believe so. Because of that your left with originals which should number in the tens of thousands out there but you'll need to know what your specific application looks like. They do come up for sale on Ebay from time to time

not sure what you mean by application but i have a 289, no A/C, power steering ford...? is that answer to your question ?
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on June 05, 2015, 11:27:11 PM
not sure what you mean by application but i have a 289, no A/C, power steering ford...? is that answer to your question ?

I meant that by application - you'll need to make sure the one you purchase matches your application. Not (for example) a 68 390 or a 6 cylinder .......They may look similar but not be correct
Title: Re: '67 p.s. pump rear bracket
Post by: mhubert89 on June 07, 2015, 09:47:19 AM
I meant that by application - you'll need to make sure the one you purchase matches your application. Not (for example) a 68 390 or a 6 cylinder .......They may look similar but not be correct

yes i will ! thanks for the advice !!
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bossbill on May 29, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
The 67 P/S rear support strap was mentioned a few posts back, but all the pics show them installed. I was missing mine (or can't find it) so West Coast Cougars (again) to the rescue. Here is a pic of one out in the wild, chasing salmon running up river.

However, the finish appears to be a zinc phosphate (or parkerizing). You can make out the shiny, worn through area.

Can anyone validate the finish?
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: 67gtasanjose on May 29, 2019, 03:08:07 PM
...Can anyone validate the finish?

Mine is "natural"
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bossbill on May 29, 2019, 04:14:10 PM
Hmmm.
All sorts of variables here. WCCC stocks mostly Cougar cars. I think the 67 Cougar was only built in Dearborn, with SJ added the following year.
Since the 67 and 68 bracket are so different, it follows that what I probably have is a 67 Dearborn bracket which may well have a different finish than SJ.
Or, it's a service part. Or a different vendor make each piece. Or ...

Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 30, 2019, 01:12:07 AM
Hmmm.
All sorts of variables here. WCCC stocks mostly Cougar cars. I think the 67 Cougar was only built in Dearborn, with SJ added the following year.
Since the 67 and 68 bracket are so different, it follows that what I probably have is a 67 Dearborn bracket which may well have a different finish than SJ.
Or, it's a service part. Or a different vendor make each piece. Or ...
The bracket typically has a weak PO plating. That maybe why some are calling it bare steel. 
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bossbill on May 30, 2019, 02:24:14 AM
Light phosphate and natural look pretty darn close.
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
Back to my spring saddle rebuild.
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2019, 05:37:26 PM
I've used the gun bluing (applied with steel wool rather than a rag or dip) to remove the freshly cleaned or stripped look then worked with steel wool to the level I want has worked well for me in many of similar situations

Just another option :)
Title: Re: '67 power steering mounting
Post by: Bossbill on May 30, 2019, 06:35:47 PM
Yes, you've mentioned that before and I'm very happy with those results on other parts.
I'm especially pleased with that method on my tie rods and leaf springs.