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Offline rodster

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2015, 11:12:09 PM »

Unfortunately, since most of the data set is from the Metuchen plant, it's hard to say for sure what they were doing at the Dearborn and San Jose factories .....

I've got a Non-GT 390 Dearborn car but haven't found a buildsheet.. in any of the easy locations.....

Nice documentation!
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2015, 11:47:12 PM »
I've been researching 1967 390 Mustang Air Cleaner Assemblies for several years now, and while I do not have conclusive proof of what is and is not correct for every 1967 390 Mustang (there may be variations between the three final assembly plants, and/or the production dates at each one as well), the attached file contains the basic information I have found so far...


Just wanted to mention (for others) that the many of the decals on the air cleaners in your sheet are incorrect just in case anyone would consider copying them ;)
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2015, 08:24:55 PM »
Good point!  Yes, the purpose of my document was only to identify the different air cleaner housings used on the 1967 390 Mustangs, and not the accuracy of the decals - that's a whole different topic!  ;)
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 11:00:43 AM »
Hi,

the car listed in the first line of your table seem to correspond to my car (build date 11E, I posted my build sheet here a few years ago).

The correct air cleaner would be C7ZF-E (open-emission) but the air cleaner that I have on my car is a C7FZ-F with the closed emission nipple beeing shortened and capped.

I already saw another Dearborn late 67 S-Code GT having exactely the same capped nipple on the air cleaner.

Does anybody know if they left the factory like this, because of shortage of the correct air cleaner?

Here are two example of Dearborn cars.

Laurent
1967 Fastback 390 GTA Dearborn May 67 7F02S201072 (stolen)
1967 Fastback 390 GT San Jose Nov 66

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2015, 01:45:09 PM »
From an auction for a 12K mile '67 fastback, 7F02S124930.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272012568252?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Update: replaced photos with higher res versions from dealer's website.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 02:10:06 PM by WT8095 »
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2015, 01:52:06 PM »
It seems to me that if a car had a thermactor system that there would not be enough room for a air pump air filter can, and a air pump plus the housing with the snorkel.
8F02R218047-  July 18 1968   Dearborn

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »
It seems to me that if a car had a thermactor system that there would not be enough room for a air pump air filter can, and a air pump plus the housing with the snorkel.

The photo you have of a C7ZF-K with a snorkel (middle right) has a supply tube and a check valve - where are the pump and filter mounted in that car?
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'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2015, 02:28:42 PM »
I already saw another Dearborn late 67 S-Code GT having exactely the same capped nipple on the air cleaner.

Does anybody know if they left the factory like this, because of shortage of the correct air cleaner?

Here are two example of Dearborn cars.

Haven't seen this before and its odd IMHO that the nipple has been modified (shortened) There would be no reason for the workers on the line to make the effort instead it would be easier just to slip the cap over the longer curved end or crimp it over with a pair of pliers


From an auction for a 12K mile '67 fastback, 7F02S124930.

Neat car - looks like there has been some freshing up on the engine compartment but no worst that others

Thanks for sharing



It seems to me that if a car had a thermactor system that there would not be enough room for a air pump air filter can, and a air pump plus the housing with the snorkel.

First it would depend when the car was built as that would suggest where the filter can was located (floating or mounted to shock tower)

Can tell you they clear since I've owned original cars with that style of air cleaner and thermactor . Everything  fits just fine though close to one another
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2015, 05:34:02 PM »
Neat car - looks like there has been some freshing up on the engine compartment but no worst that others

Thanks for sharing

No problem. The dealer website has a lot of extra photos, might be useful to add to your collection:

http://www.streetsideclassics.com/vehicles/2709-atl/1967-Ford-Mustang
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'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2015, 06:03:01 PM »
Hi,

the car listed in the first line of your table seem to correspond to my car (build date 11E, I posted my build sheet here a few years ago).

The correct air cleaner would be C7ZF-E (open-emission) but the air cleaner that I have on my car is a C7FZ-F with the closed emission nipple beeing shortened and capped.

I already saw another Dearborn late 67 S-Code GT having exactely the same capped nipple on the air cleaner.

Does anybody know if they left the factory like this, because of shortage of the correct air cleaner?

Here are two example of Dearborn cars.

Laurent

Thank you for the additional information Laurent!

I have to admit I've never seen one like that before.  If you remove the cap from the nipple, does it look like it has been cut, or is there a "ridge" on it to help hold the cap in place?


From an auction for a 12K mile '67 fastback, 7F02S124930.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272012568252?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Update: replaced photos with higher res versions from dealer's website.

WT - Thanks for the links and additional photos!  Not to get too far off topic, but I noticed that this car also has the early 390 asymmetrical valve covers as well, with the PCV hole in the center of the passenger side cover. They have been discussed here in the past:

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5000.msg27927#msg27927
« Last Edit: October 13, 2015, 12:25:10 PM by Paperback Writer »
1967 390 GTA Convertible
7R03S110###
76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2015, 10:07:37 PM »
Jeff, would this subject line cover appropriate decals on the filter housing for an april 67 Dearborn built car.
8F02R218047-  July 18 1968   Dearborn

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2015, 10:43:02 PM »
Jeff, would this subject line cover appropriate decals on the filter housing for an april 67 Dearborn built car.

Think the safe thing (for readers and searchers in the future) is start fresh since this thread is not about decals nor specific plants  ;)

We can already predict that there will not be allot of original sources to post but it will be more than say - NJ examples
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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2015, 05:31:52 AM »
Thank you for the additional information Laurent!

I have to admit I've never seen one like that before.  If you remove the cap from the nipple, does it look like it has been cut, or is there a "ridge" on it to help hold the cap in place?

I removed the cap and that is what I found:
1967 Fastback 390 GTA Dearborn May 67 7F02S201072 (stolen)
1967 Fastback 390 GT San Jose Nov 66

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2015, 01:42:24 PM »
Interesting - so the hose fitting appears to be a factory item, rather than someone simply cutting-down the elbow-shaped fitting that is usually seen on the closed emission bases...

Thanks for the additional information - I will make note of it in the future!

« Last Edit: October 30, 2015, 07:42:33 AM by Paperback Writer »
1967 390 GTA Convertible
7R03S110###
76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 390 air filter housing
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2015, 05:53:24 PM »
Another "short nipple" example. No way of knowing if its original to the car but the cars VIN is 7F02S2010xx which has a 41 DSO





Looks allot like (just based on the added Monte-carlo bar ;)  CandyAppleRed's pictures
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